Subject: Halon and cellular phone
Here is a follow-up to the enquiry about Halon systems being activated by cellular phones. Paul Baril CCI Date: 16 Dec 96 Summary: Comments received to date from the fire protection field show a reasonable support to believe portable radios (walkie-talkies) can cause microprocessor-based fire alarm systems to activate. Older relay type fire protection systems appear to be safer from this problem. Some manufacturers have designed their systems to minimize this risk. There's little support to believe cellular telephones can cause fire protection systems to activate. It may be wise to keep a distance of 8 to 10 feet from fire alarm panels and smoke detectors when using portable radios. For more information please see the abbreviated comments below. Paul Baril Canadian Conservation Institute 1. John M. Cholin, P.E. RF interference is not a pervasive problem but does raise its ugly head with certain installations and with certain products. When it raises its head it is generally very ugly! There are tons of information on RF interference in the electronic engineering community. There is an entire cadre of EEs that do noting but resolve RF interference problems. There is a tremendous wealth of info available from the IEEE. Fortunately, most RF interference problems encountered in the fire alarm industry are relatively simple ones that are quite soluble, even by guys like me! RF susceptibility is found in two areas of the fire alarm system: detectors and control panels. Let's deal with the detectors first. In order for a detector to be truly RF immune its circuit must be symmetrical about earth-ground. For example the impedance from the positive power supply and the negative power supply to ground should be the same. If not the RF will impose an asymmetric charge across any and all diode junctions in the circuit--often with very strange, if not amusing results. Naturally the most susceptible portion of a detector circuit is going to be the "front-end", the part that does the sensing. This is an area where there are important performance differences between ionization and photoelectric detectors. Ionization detectors use a junction field effect transistor (JFET) as the front end component. JFETs are symmetrical die devices! Since symmetry is good RF immunity--you guessed it--JFET front ends in ionization detectors are generally fairly RF immune. On the contrary, the front-end of a photoelectric detector is either a phototransistor or a photodiode. These are asymmetric components by their very structure and will rectify any RF in the neighborhood, resulting in spurious charge accumulations in the pre-amplifier stage of the detector and--you guessed it- trouble in river city! While an artful electronic engineer can design compensation circuits for any given RF transmission the compensation circuits at one frequency band are generally not so hot in some other frequency band. Consequently, occasionally we hear of a detector model that has developed a problem with some type of RF transmitter. The better manufacturers are quick to develop solutions for those problems. The second point of vulnerability is the control panel. When I make that statement I am considering the installation wiring as part of the control panel because it is the antenna! Here again, RF immunity is largely controlled by the degree of circuit symmetry in the control panel. Systems with symmetrical power supplies about earth-ground are generally more RF immune. Symmetrical initiating device circuits also contribute substantially to the stability of the FACU. Most panels available today are test for RF interference by the NRTLs and will provide stable service when properly installed. Indeed, the overwhelming majority of the RF interference problems I have encountered in my engineering practice have been the artifact of substandard installation practices. Most of the current systems I have studied have a high degree of RF immunity built into them--this is a well understood topic amongst the hot-shot EEs. However, that RF immunity will breakdown if the proper wiring methods and materials are not employed. Asymmetric impedances along the wiring turn the symmetric power supply at the control panel into an asymmetric power supply at the distant detector with those strange and sometimes amusing results. In general, the faster the system transmits data the more susceptible it will be to some form of RF interference either in the form of data integrity or analog signal. However, the newer, smart software can do a lot to restore degraded data. The bottom-line is to choose a quality manufacturer and a quality installation contractor and follow the installation practices meticulously. That will avoid 99% of the problems right at the start. If you buy the project on a strict low-bid basis don't be too surprised if you get what you pay for! 2. Steven Germano Factory Mutual Engineering Re: RF effects on smoke sensors When I used to work at Factory Mutual Research in the 80's, we added a walkie-talkie test after hearing of complaints of false alarms due to RF. I believe we keyed a 5 watt Motorola walkie talkie at a distance of 1 ft. away from the detector (and also the control panel). We didn't fail the equipment if it false alarmed, but made note of it. Early on, the microprocessor based equipment had some problems with RF, but I believe the manufacturer's corrected the situation. The possibility certainly exists that a two way portable radio can cause a control panel to false alarm. At a large military installation, I witnessed this happen on three separate occasions. One involved a building fire alarm control panel which was over 12 years old; the second during the acceptance testing of an Inergen control panel; the third involved a Potter land line transmitter. On each occasion a person was standing directly in front of the control panel while transmitting on a Fire Dept. radio. These radios also caused similar problems with other electronic equipment. The base Fire Dept. has since changed portable radios and I am not aware of any recent problems. 3. Carroll W. Wollard II, President, Fire-X Sales & Service Corp. Hagerstown, MD. The possibility certainly exists that a two way portable radio can cause a control panel to false alarm. At a large military installation, I witnessed this happen on three separate occasions. One involved a building fire alarm control panel which was over 12 years old; the second during the acceptance testing of an Inergen control panel; the third involved a Potter land line transmitter. On each occasion a person was standing directly in front of the control panel while transmitting on a Fire Dept. radio. These radios also caused similar problems with other electronic equipment. The base Fire Dept. has since changed portable radios and I am not aware of any recent problems. 4. John Grocke I have heard stories of walkie-talkies tripping fire suppression systems that used older style releasing control panels that did strange things when exposed to RF interference. A few years ago, while at a NASA facility at Kennedy Space Center, I saw an old releasing panel on a wall with an engraved sign that read "DO NOT OPERATE WALKIE-TALKIES OR PORTABLE RADIOS WITHIN 3 FEET OF THIS CONTROL PANEL". While servicing old Halon and other releasing panels years ago, I was always told not to operate walkie-talkies with the control panel door open for this reason. I realize that this is not documented proof of this phenomenon, but thought it might help. 5. Charles Sabah I doubt that a cellular phone has the power and the frequency that would affect a Halon system. We have installed close to three hundred(300) Halon systems in cellular phone switch sites without a single unwanted discharge. 6. Kevin R. Dixon, Fireline Corporation, Leesburg Branch I have seen 2 way radios drive a system into alarm when too close to the panel. This seems to especially be true when working on an intelligent system. If the panel is used for suppression, it is a very real possibility. My advice from personal experience, keep at least 3-5 feet from the control panel when using 2 way radios. 7. Fred K Walker, Usaf Chief Fire Engineer Hq Afcesa/Cesm We have not had any Halon systems activated by phone or radio transmission but we have had other systems especially systems using optical flame detectors activated in this manner. 8. Ian W. Price, P.Eng. Principal, Emergency Communications Engineering It's been my experience that RF interference from walkie-talkies can affect fire-alarm/suppression-system control panels generally only when the panel is open and there is no shielding from the RF between the radio antenna and the PC boards/components. The warnings to technicians are real and valid, since most testing is done with walkie-talkies when the panel is open. False system operation due to 'operations' -type radio communications between say security guards in a building when the FA is not being serviced, have not come to my attention ... although that's not to say it never has, or cannot, happen. Both Canada and the US have rules governing the RF emissions caused by electronic equipment (FCC Part 15); I'd check the UL/ULC Control Panel manufacturing standard (in Canada, CAN/ULC-S52? [reference not handy]), for a specification for resistance to RF interference. It would surprise me to find there was none. Here are some generalizations--treat them as exactly that .... If the control panel is in a grounded metal box with the door closed, the RF can't get in; Cellular phones have a lower power output than walkie-talkies. 9. Joe Levesque, Fire Protection Engineer, Brookhaven National Laboratory Over the past 40 years we have seen our 150 relayed based fire alarm panel change to micro processor based "intelligent" panels. We now have over 100 micro processor based panel and less than 80 relay based panels. The relay based panel do not react to RF (from our VHF maintenance radios). The microprocessor based units do. The RF interference only occurs from the portables when the Fire Alarm Panel door is open. We have never tripped a system, but the panels can do all sorts of weird things (reset, alarm, go into trouble). 10. Mark Chubb, Fire Code Coordinator, Southeastern Assn of Fire Chiefs RF emitters, especially FM radio transmitters, have been known to initiate high-explosives such as blasting caps and detonating cord. Explosive squibs used to release Halon are essentially low energy detonators. The leads on the squib may act like an antenna and induce a small current in the device, initiating the explosive material inside. The sensitivity of certain explosive materials and devices to RF initiation is the reason you see warning signs entering and leaving blasting sites warning you not to operate radio transmitters. 11. Carroll W. Wollard II, President, Fire-X Sales & Service Corp. Forklift emissions can also cause accidental discharge of halon systems when used to maneuver new equipment installations in existing halon protected areas (such as flight simulator hangers). 12. C. Burton Ford There are lots of cases where walkie-talkies have alarmed smoke detection systems some of which were connected to special hazard suppression systems (Halon, CO2, preaction, etc.) Usually this did not result in discharge due to the redundant requirements ala cross-zone, priority matrix. Occasionally it did result in a discharge. It seems that control panels may be as vulnerable as smoke detectors to RFI. I expect that the list will give you more gory details. 13. Andy Leneweaver, Fire Chief Equipment, Bellevue, WA As a field service technician, in years past, I have personally set off many different alarm systems (addressable and hardwire), by exposure to radio transmission, and have heard many more first hand reports of security personnel setting off systems (including suppression systems) by transmitting near the control panel. Keystone Fire Protection, in the Philadelphia, PA area, even had labels made to alert occupants of the possibility of accidental discharge by radio. Luckily, during the times I set off systems by radio, the systems were disabled and being tested. Some of the security personnel were not so lucky. 14. John M. Lawlor, President, Keystone Fire Protection Company My guess is that you will unleash a 7-day deluge of responses on this subject, but the answer to your question about walkie talkies causing unwanted discharges of Halon systems is an unqualified "YES". We have had numerous examples in the past 10 to 15 years of radios "spiking" microprocessor based control panels, with the most undesired result being accidental discharge of the connected system. Many years ago, we invested in very conspicuous 3" X 4" bright orange decal that we place on the front of all of our installed suppressions system that states: "WARNING: Do not use radio communication equipment within 10 feet of the fire control panel." We ate a few unexplained discharges in previous years before we figured out what was happening. If you've had an unexplained loss, it is very possible that RF interference was the culprit. It certainly is an easy test to repeat (with the control heads off the cylinders of course). 15. Robin Justice, FSS-21, Los Alamos National Laboratory A while back (when this thread was first visited), I committed a faux pas and posted a message that stated that FCI panels also had this problem. Turns out that the newest FCI panels don't. The owner of the company has spent major money to harden his company's panels against RF. You might consider going to them. David Tremain CCI *** Conservation DistList Instance 10:58 Distributed: Tuesday, December 17, 1996 Message Id: cdl-10-58-016 ***Received on Monday, 16 December, 1996