Dear All, Here at the British Library National Sound Archive we have found a total of six double-play and triple-play Agfa tapes showing similar symptoms. The oxide adheres to the backing of the next layer, which in this case is glossy (not matt). At normal playing-speeds (7 1/2 ips) the oxide is completely wrecked in the process, and the tape ruined. Neighbouring tapes in the same collections are usually OK, it afflicts (I would guess) one tape in five hundred. We are currently using outhoused contractors to get the sound off such tapes for print-through reasons. The contractors are all mandated to unpeel the outer turn of the tape very slowly, and if the oxide shows signs of coming off, return them to us unplayed. You cannot bake such a tape; as Richard Hess says, it's different from the usual synthetic polyurethane binder problem. Following an accidental discovery on my part, the solution seems to unwind the tape incredibly slowly. I understand that what we call "Sellotape" here in England is conversationally called "Scotch Tape" in America. If you pull some Scotch Tape from the reel fast, it goes "pzzzzip" as it separates, while if you pull it slowly it separates cleanly. We have built a prototype machine (called a "Grandfather Clock", because that's what it looks like) to unwind the tape incredibly slowly. The gearbox ratio can be changed, but at the moment the takeup reel turns at one revolution a minute, so a reel may take three days to unwind. As this happens, it travels up the grandfather clock through a box fed with warm air from a fan to dry it before it reaches the takeup reel. But until last week, we hadn't enough examples of such tapes to test the machine thoroughly. I hope to present the resulting design at the ARSC/IASA conference in London in September. Peter Copeland <peter.copeland@xxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: Richard L. Hess [mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 20 April 2001 07:28 To: AV-Media-Matters@xxxxxxxxxx; arsclist Subject: arsclist Scotch 176 adhesion problems I hope this cross-post isn't too annoying. I dug out a 1976 reel of Scotch 176--or at least that was what the box says. I was going to transfer it to DAT (and ultimately to CD-R). I started playing it and I saw layer-to-layer adhesion. It's not sticky shed. There is no residue on guides, but rather some of the oxide may be attaching itself to the back of the tape. I stopped playing as soon as I noticed (it didn't happen for the first ten minutes of the tape). There are a LOT of splices in the tape so it may not be a homogenous type. I've not seen this before nor come across it in my reading. Is it sticky shed? Is this a bakable disease? Will baking hurt? It is not a back-coated tape and it appears to be 1.5 mil...so there is a good chance it is mostly 176. I guess by 1976 CBC had switched to this? Could there be Racal Zonal mixed in? Since the first few cuts didn't exhibit this and about the tenth little skit in (there might be 40 on this reel) exhibited what I have described. Although some Zonal from 1973 did well for me two years ago. The products of the adhesion are splotchy towards the center of the tape. I'm not sure how the tape was stored, but I suspect in a humid basement for a long time. Could it be mold? I've had it about a year and am only getting to it now, so the nose test won't be as useful as a year ago. Most of the stuff coming out of that basement in Toronto was damp--some downright wet. I had to replace a box which had gotten so wet that it was all buckled, and coming apart...but I don't think it was for this reel since this 176 box has what appears to be the correct label on it. It is very poorly wound with lots of edges out. Any thoughts would be of great use. I check the lists in the evening, but if you could reply to richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I'll get it sooner during the day. Thanks! Richard Richard L. Hess richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Glendale, CA USA http://www.richardhess.com/ Web page: folk and church music, photography, and broadcast engineering ********************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster@xxxxx : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. *********************************************************************
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