Re: [ARSCLIST] Fw: [ARSCLIST] Gold CDs

[Brandon Burke <thejosephboys@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I understand what you're saying and agree--and perhaps I'm exposing an
ignorance of the field here--but it seems to me that the right information
embedded within the header would link the recording on the disc to its
proper case (and identity) either way.  No?

Brandon Burke
Audio Preservation Laboratory
Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave.
Washington, DC 20540-4696
(202) 707-0085


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From: Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Fw: [ARSCLIST] Gold CDs
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:07:34 -0400

Short of generating a CD serial number list for clients and they doing
immediate cataloging to track their quality control process, I'm not sure
how a studio would go about this.  Labeling printed on a robust surface is a
far more practical solution for those of us engaged in being an out source.

Some seroius testing of the various labeling systems needs to be done, and
quickly.

Steve Smolian

Meanwhile,

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From: "David Seubert" <seubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Fw: [ARSCLIST] Gold CDs


> We do use these unique serial numbers to correlate our (unlabeled)
CD-Rs
> with the cases, which have the label. My reasoning was that in the
event
> of an earthquake (ahem...) when everything gets knocked off the
shelves,
> we'll be able to match up the CDs with the cases. These numbers are
> recorded in our database as well. Thankfully, when we crawled out from
> under our desks this morning there were no CDs to pick up.
>
> All brands we've used over the years (Mitsui, Kodak, Verbatim, Quantegy
> and Taiyo Yuden) all have had a printed "number" of varying
length on
> the inner hub. As Mike says, it can be difficult to read, especially on
> T-Y and as CDs become more of a commodity item like toilet paper or
> paper clips these numbers have been getting longer and harder to read.
> When we started doing this six years ago the numbers were shorter, more
> legible and this seemed logical, but these days I might be inclined to
> write our own serial number on the inner ring. However, it still works
> and we haven't switched yet.
>
> David Seubert
> UCSB
>
> Quoting Mike Richter <mrichter@xxxxxxx>:
>
> > At 01:59 PM 9/28/2004 -0500, Brandon Burke wrote:
> >
> > >I don't understand this at all.  Unless you plan on releasing
a CD
> > >commercially, why would you ever worry about putting a label
on it?
> > CD-Rs
> > >already have something close to a unique number printed on the
inner
> > ring.
> >
> > 1. Some Taiyo-Yuden (and possibly other) discs have such a unique
> > number.
> > Some disc lines have a code in that area to indicate lot number.
Most
> > media
> > have nothing there at all.
> >
> > 2. That code is rarely sufficiently legible for many purposes. In
> > particular, T-Y uses fine, light printing, visible only when the
disc
> > is
> > held to the light. Finding a misplaced disc requires removing each
> > candidate from its storage, more handling than one would wish.
> >
> > It makes sense to use a unique identifier in that area. In fact, I
> > suggested just such a solution, writing whatever is appropriate. I
do
> > so
> > regularly, using a water-based ink from a TDK "CD Mark"
pen in a
> > color
> > which can be used in the code (e.g., red - master, blue -
submaster,
> > black
> > - dupe).
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > --
> > mrichter@xxxxxxx
> > http://www.mrichter.com/
> >
>
>
>
> David Seubert, Curator
> Performing Arts Collection
> Davidson Library Special Collections
> University of California
> Santa Barbara, CA  93106-9010
> (805) 893-5444 Fax (805) 893-5749
> mailto:seubert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.library.ucsb.edu/speccoll/pa/