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Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
I don't think they diluted it themselves - I believe they just tried a
couple of different brands. I will see if I can find out which one they are
using.
Jim Lindner
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nancy Mysel
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
Jim,
Any idea what they were mixing it with to achieve different strengths? I'm
nervous about the evaporation rate of something oil based and the likelihood
of it being absorbed but I'll try it out on some junk mag.
nancy
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Lindner
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
Something that is a good solvent for one adhesive will not necessarily be a
good solvent for another. Then again - I was so impressed by this one - I
would give it a test on a bit that is able to be sacrificed if it does not
work properly. Please remember that I mentioned that they had to experiment
with a couple of different strengths to find the one that worked best - so
some experimentation will probably be necessary. Please post your results!
Jim Lindner
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nancy Mysel
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:26 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
Something that works and isn't carcinogenic? Inconceivable!
Do you think this would be safe to use directly on the oxide side of 35mm
fullcoat mag tracks? We encountered a bad batch of splicing tape that left
terrible goo lines that have proven difficult and time consuming to remove.
(These are preservation elements so long term effects are definitely a
concern.)
-- nancy
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Nancy Mysel
UCLA Film & TV Archive
1141 N. Seward St.
Hollywood, CA 90038
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Lindner
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
No - it is in a different area in the archives, Mick has nothing to do with
it - or at least I don't think so - I will see him next week and ask...
I saw it with my own eyes - straight out of the bottle, put on a swab -
wiped over the surface - and the stuff is just gone, poof, and no noticeable
effects on anything other then the glue. The tape looked great. There may be
some long term longevity issues - but the goal in this situation is to just
get the gook off and make a copy so I was not thinking about "long term" in
these particular situations anyhow. As I mentioned they experimented with
two different types - but as described they chose one of them because it was
less aggressive. Interestingly years ago before 3M went out of the business
- I was told that they spent a huge amount of money researching this (after
all they had the problem in the first place) and found that Triclor was the
ONLY thing that worked. I never thought of questioning it.
The stuff works great - much better then Triclor.
And as an added feature - - - I had a cold when I visited and a nice person
at the archive gave me a small bottle which I opened up in the hotel room
and it filled the room with that lovely fragrance, and it did make breathing
easier. I had to leave it behind however - I did not want to have to explain
to customs what it was.... now that has me wondering if there is a
connection between nasal congestion and Flange glue - LOL. But seriously -
it works really well. No reservations on recommending this one.
Jim Lindner
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
Sounds great.
I've got a few old "glue" tapes that clients didn't want saved but gave me
for testing purposes. This sounds like a great boon if it works out. I
hate working with trichlor and the current method, though it works, is a
royal pain. Did Mick do the tests in Australia? I'd love to find out what
concentration they used and find out more about the application.
Peter Brothers
President
SPECS BROS., LLC
(201) 440-6589
www.specsbros.com
Restoration and Disaster Recovery Service Since 1983
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> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Lindner
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:21 AM
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> Whoops - that was NFSA - and I forgot to add- the process leaves the room
> smelling lovely!!
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> jim
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Lindner
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:09 AM
> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Foam Flange Glue Removal
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> I recently learned something while at the NFTA in Australia - (formerly
> Screensound). I had also removed the glue in an expensive and
> time consuming
> process for years. We used Triclor at that time to do it. It did not do a
> great job and took forever. At screensound they have been using Eucalyptus
> Oil to remove the glue. I had my doubts when they told me this but then we
> actually did a reel. The result was amazing - and I do not use "amazing"
> often. The Eucalyptus oil absolutely dissolved the glue - it
> removed it from
> both the foam on the flange and the tape. I expected the foam to
> be affected
> and the tape edges as well. That was not the case. It just came off
> incredibly cleanly and easily. You don't have to wind the tape
> and clean the
> edges separately - it just all comes off. Now I realize this may
> sound like
> an advert. For citrus miracle or something - but it isn't. They had to
> experiment with a couple of different brands - one was a bit too
> aggressive
> - but the demonstration I saw was incredibly impressive. The tape edges
> looked great - certainly good enough for a playback. I just
> thought I would
> pass it on. Give it a try Peter - you will be surprised.
>
> jim
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