Re: [ARSCLIST] MP3 bit rates and usage factors for Web pages

["Marie Azile O'Connell" <marie.oconnell@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Karl

They were banned because we had given them permission to listen to all the audio
we had on this particular subject, and take notes, infact as many notes as they
could write.  But, they over-stepped the mark and sneaked into the archive a
recording device and asked for some particularly 'juicy' bits of audio that
they wanted to listen to that day.  We now know why, because they had
intentionally decided to record the audio illegally and use it for their own
purposes.  These people were pro the defendent appearing in court, who was a
child sex offender.

They were given there device back after we destroyed the tape within.  Also,
word was put out to other Archives in NZ about these people and it became
apparent they had tried tactics in other institutions.  So, that is why they
were banned.

Needless to say, there were policy changes made about visiting researchers. 
Unfortunately, there is always a bad apple in every carton.

Cheers

Marie




Quoting Karl Miller <lyaa071@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Marie Azile O'Connell wrote:
> 
> > I recall an incident back in New Zealand where we had 2 researchers coming
> in
> > frequently, researching a particular case that was about to got to court.
> > These people were found, in one of our studios, which they had been set up
> in,
> > recording the audio they were listening to.  Needless to say, the device
> was
> > confiscated from them and they were banned from Sound Archives.
> 
> Why were they banned from the archives?
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sometimes being generous just doesn't work with such people.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Marie O'Connell
> > Sound Archivist/Sound Engineer/Sound Consultant
> > Center for Oral History & Cultural Heritage
> > University of Southern Mississippi
> > Phone: 601-266-6514
> > Mobile: 601-329-6911
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Mwcpc6@xxxxxxx:
> >
> > > In a message dated 12/1/2005 9:02:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > marie.oconnell@xxxxxxx writes:
> > > My instinct has been to give
> > > a very short excerpt of audio, with text, but to keep out the 'prized'
> part
> > > of
> > > the audio that the person really wants.  If they want it badly enough,
> then
> > > they will have to get in touch with the company, University and pay for
> it!
> > > ****************
> > >
> > > I suppose it depends on the purpose of maintaining an archive; of
> preserving
> > >
> > > historical materials at all. If it is regarded as a valuable collection
> and
> > > potential revenue source, certainly access must be restricted. With
> present
> > > day
> > > technology, once it is out of the vault, it can be everywhere.
> > >
> > > However if the purpose is to preserve and spread knowledge, then the
> > > propagation and free distribution of the material is serving the
> purpose.
> > >
> > > Knowledge must be force fed to most people. That is why school attendance
> is
> > >
> > > required by law. Money to do this is generally provided by taxes and
> private
> > >
> > > grants. More and more institutions are putting their materials online as
> part
> > >
> > > of their fundamental mandate.
> > >
> > > One danger in commercializing an archive is that people with special
> > > interests in a political or technical will be quite willing to pay a
> > > substantial
> > > amount for an excerpt to use in a documentary supporting their cause. If
> > > access to
> > > the original documents is restricted, there is no opportunity for the
> public
> > >
> > > to see the context of the excerpt or study associated materials.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the best compromise is something like the relationship between
> the
> > > Prelinger Archive and Getty Images
> > > http://www.panix.com/~footage/prelarch.html
> > >
> > > Of course this requires a certain culture of both generosity and honesty
> to
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Mike Csontos
> > >
> >
> 


Marie O'Connell
Sound Archivist/Sound Engineer/Sound Consultant
Center for Oral History & Cultural Heritage
University of Southern Mississippi
Phone: 601-266-6514
Mobile: 601-329-6911