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Re: [ARSCLIST] Carnegie Hall Rec Corp, etc.



I had occassion to check. Just like today, recording services seldom kept copies of what they made for cliennts. It cost extra time, materials, cataloging and storage space with little prospect of return.

Anyway, I was told they retained almost nothing.

And Music Masters was a completely different company from Discophile...and how!

We did a couple of informal ARSC sessions on old New York stores which Mike Biel taped. One year it was Pete Munves and myself whith others chiming in (Pete and I met at Echlers when I was but a lad); another included Kurt Nauck as well, with attendee ad-libs.

In the early 1960s I worked for the Belloc Everest as their all-of-Manhattan salesman and knew where most of the record places were on that island. As well as the good steam-table bars, a form of cuisine I've been unable to locate since.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Miller" <lyaa071@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] obituary - Franz Jolowicz, Discophile NYC



On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Peter Hirsch wrote:


I saw the obit for Franz (I never knew he had a last name, he was always
simply Franz and all my record hound buddies 30 some years ago knew who
you were referring to when you said "Franz") online and it had quite an
impact on me. First of all, the owner of an independent record store
specializing in imports and obscure domestic label getting a NY Times
obit is worth remarking on. But, more than that, I was brought back to
an era when my universe included the Record Hunter, unnamed second hand
stores on 4th Avenue where you could graze endlessly through 25¢ bins of
78s, that place on 43rd Street near 5th Ave. (name eludes me for the
moment).

Are you talking about Music Masters? It was my home away from home. Willy Lerner, who ran the place, was quite a guy. He too got an obit in the Times. I spent many an hour there and met many collectors and spent just about every penny I had to my name. Back in the late 60s there were so many great shops like the bargain shop at Sam Goody's, Willy had all of those wonderful in house tapes. You could go to a concert at Philharmonic or Carnegie Hall or the Met and the next day, buy a tape of the concert.

By the way, I always wondered if the Carnegie Hall Recording Corporation
maintained copies of what they recorded and what might have happened to
what they had when they closed their doors. I have several NY Phil
performances they recorded, and considering the microphone placement, the
sound was quite decent. Anyone know more of the history of what might have
happened to them?

Karl


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