Hi Phillip:
Respectfully, I doubt it's a factory problem because I have other copies
of the same record (in not as good condition) that don't have the
whitish-hissy vinyl problem. It seems to be a storage problem and based on
the few records here that have it, it seems to be related to those awful
clear plastic inner envelopes that seemed to be popular in the mid and
late 50s. My theory is that the whitish substanced leached out of the
plastic and bonded with the vinyl. Further testing on another record
indicates that it's fused into the surface material, not a coating unless
it's a perfect coat that sits over all contours (I liiked with a
microscope and varied the angle to see the groove contours). I also looked
at the hiss in a spectrum display and it's annoying because it's
high-frequency hiss and not fuller-spectrum hiss like on tapes. Most
present in the high-midrange area but up into the upper frequencies.
EQ'ing out the top -- where there's no music anyway on these old LPs --
say above 12K or so, actually makes it more annoying because it brings out
what's present in the music-containing bands. Bottom line is, c'est la
vie.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "phillip holmes" <insuranceman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] White haze on older LPs -- cure??
They could be pressing defects from the factory. I have a number of
Mercury jazz titles with this hazy appearance that makes a constant
hiss/crackle. I believe it was a problem with Mercury's presses. I may
be wrong on this, but when they switched from shellac to vinylite, they
had to reduce the heat on the machines. If they didn't, the vinyl would
cook. Just my theory on that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:05 AM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] White haze on older LPs -- cure??
Hi All:
I have here a couple of mid-50's mono LPs, excellent condition as far as
scratches and grit but they have that dull white-ish haze, which seems
to make the vinyl hiss when it's played. Kind of like tape hiss, but
less full-spectrum. Not swish-hiss, which seems to happen when this film
doesn't uniformly cover the whole record surface. I think this
white-gray substance might be leached out of plastic inner sleeves, but
why only on one side of the records? VPI fluid doesn't remove the
substance but does remove any crud from the grooves because the records
play beautifully except for the hiss -- not a single tick/pop and no
groove crackle.
Any way to remove this or is it now part of the vinyl?
-- Tom Fine
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