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Re: [ARSCLIST] National Recording Preservation Board (NRPB) Study
I am not done reading this stuff,but I can easily imagine 800,000 or more unique 78 sides,taking into consideration,local,and folkloric records,from all countries, speeches,etc. .Having just read,the other thread about how,the historic reissue business in the UK (Where most historic reissues,especially of classical music, came from.)had been shut down,by copyright laws,I can see the 78s, being even more imprtant.Roger Kulp
Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Take a look at the copyright study Tim Brooks and I did for the CLIR.
80,000 is a way-under number.
Steve Smolian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fine"
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] National Recording Preservation Board (NRPB) Study
>I honestly didn't know there were 80,000 unique 78 sides recorded! What is
>the material?
>
> Steven, do you think you have more disks than Joe Bussard? Did I
> understand you correctly that you have 40 THOUSAND unique 78's (ie no
> repeats)? Or, how much of that is overlap?
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
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> From: "Mike Richter"
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> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] National Recording Preservation Board (NRPB) Study
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>
>> steven c wrote:
>>
>>> I have about 80,000 78 sides to (eventually) archive in digital form.
>>> As moderate-quality MP3 files of, say, 500KB each...I would need
>>> about 40,000MB...or 40GB, which I could store on a single not-too-
>>> expensive drive. Wav files would be (I think) about 20 times the
>>> size, or .8TB (for I don't know how much...).
>>
>> The numbers are easy enough and probably worth sharing here.
>>
>> Redbook WAV (two channels, 16 bit depth, 44.1 ksps, PCM) is about 10
>> MB/minute. Minimum quality suggested is usually one channel, 16 bits,
>> 22.05 ksps for 2.5 MB/minute. (In practice, 10-12 bit depth would
>> suffice, but I know no software for that; 8 bits is pushing it.)
>>
>> Lossless compression is more effective on quiet material than on noisy,
>> so you can't count on more than 40% reduction.
>>
>> The usual compression for MP3 is about 11:1. Good recognition is achieved
>> from 78s at 32 Kbps (22.05 ksps, monaural) which means four minutes per
>> MB. On average, a 78 side is likely to run 3-3.5 minutes - so be a
>> pessimist and say 4 minutes. 80,000 sides would then be around 80 GB in
>> 32 Kbps MP3 up to 3.2 TB in redbook WAV or equivalent (e.g., 32 bits
>> depth but single channel). Go to archival extremes such as two channels,
>> 96 ksps, 32 bits, PCM and you're looking at 16 TB - not impossible today
>> nor even a great fortune, but probably more expensive than the benefits
>> for access are worth. (Access is distinguished from archival purposes;
>> the cost/benefit analyses differ for those two.)
>>
>> Mike
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