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Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity



Still looking........

I just came up with another more recent incarnation of Phillip's Pioneer. It's the Pioneer DV-588A-S DVD/SACD. The price is right, and the comments are glowing on more than one site:
http://www.pricegrabber.com/info_expertreviews.php/masterid=8607858
http://www.epinions.com/Pioneer_DV_588A_S_DVD/display_~latest_prices
http://products.consumerguide.com/reviews/product.epub?productId=29639#FullReview


It's amazing to me that the Japanese can manufacture so many versions of products in such short time periods. I wonder how they can do this and make it economically profitable.

Rod

Tom Fine wrote:

Well, good luck with it Rod. The Toshiba has performed like a champ for 2 years here. Sounds like those two reviewers (out of how many units sold? -- people never take the time to say nice things, which is why I rarely trust "user opinions" on things) got bad units, maybe gray goods or the like. I have an older (5+ years) Toshiba DVD/CD player that gets used daily at work and has never had trouble.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Stephens" <savecal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity


Hi All,

Thanks to Phillip and Tom for input on the units below. I've done some follow up research on Epinions and came up with these evaluations on both units.

Tom Fine wrote:

Hi Rod:

Toshiba used to make an incredible little unit. I think they got out of the SACD business. The Toshiba I have, model #SD-4960, plays SACD quite well (not quite as well as my Marantz player, but this thing cost less than 1/3 as much), DVD's very well and audio CD surprisingly well (ie they didn't cheap out on the D-A converter or the analog stage after it). I bought it after reading a very good review somewhere. I think it cost $120 on sale, perhaps on sale because it was being phased out.


Tom, I'm sure that this was a good unit for you, but it seems to have laid an egg for some who have purchased it more recently:
http://www.epinions.com/pr-Toshiba_SD-4960_DVD/display_~full_specs


I appreciated your general comments below on SACDs in general, but it looks like the Panasonic that Phillip recommended seems to currently win out on both cost an user appreciation:
http://www.epinions.com/pr-Pioneer_Pioneer_DV-578A-S_Silver_Single_Disc_DVD_Player_Single-disc_DVD_Players_DVD/display_~reviews



However, I'm still checking out the competition.


Thanks again to both of you for your input.

Rod Stephens

I am not 100% on this, but the impression I got is that SACD laid an egg in the mass market and thus lower-end multi-format players are not including in this latest year or last year's models.

My own opinion is that some SACD discs sound really wonderful, and some multi-channel mixes are worthwhile but overall it's not worth a lot of extra expense (particularly since it's a submerging format) and there wouldn't even have been a window of opportunity if there were better CD mastering and remastering engineers out there. And, since the same guys also do SACD, the same percentage of SACD releases are really excellent (ie small percentage).

One man's opinion, etc.

-- Tom Fine

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