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Re: [ARSCLIST] NASA
Uh, no David. NASA has completely re-tooled their mission, under Presidential orders, to go back to
the moon and then to Mars with men. I personally think it's idiotic, but that's the mission. We've
had great success actually learning things (instead of scoring political points) with unmanned
probes, but the priority now is for men to be stepping back on other globes. At a cost equal to
literally hundreds of very sophisticated and ambitious unmanned probes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lewis" <davlew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] NASA
Tom wrote:
PS -- I just read another article that NASA is now looking to re-acquire all
manner of parts of the
Apollo craft from various space museums so they can copy the parts for use
on their "next
generation" lunar craft. Wow, what's old is new. Next they'll want to switch
to disk-cutters for
their cap-com logger! ;)
Indeed, Tom. NASA is frustrated and embarassed by the whole space shuttle
program, and now appreciates the wisdom, economy and flexibility of
Apollo-era technology, a culture they have lost contact with. There isn't
anyone from that time still at NASA, and they need the parts to study them.
Look for the Shuttles to be phased out, and rockets to be phased back in.
Cheaper, less dangerous and more in sync with their future plans, which have
to do primarily with long range, unmanned flights.
Sort of like a twelve-tone composer going back to writing like Tchaikovsky.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] NASA
Hi Bob:
According to the articles I've seen, NASA passed these tapes on to the
National Archives. In the
late 70s, for some reason not made clear in the articles, the National
Archives passed them back to
NASA. They have since been lost by NASA. Agreed that the MO you described
would be preferable but
apparently that's not what happened here. Richard Hess, who I believe is on
vacation, knows more
about the details of this because he is somewhat expert on instrumentation
formats. But I'll take a
stab. I think the video was high-resolution, slow-scan as it was transmitted
and recorded. In other
words, an hour-long spacewalk might take all night to transmit and record.
Apparently, this format
was re-modulated to NTSC to feed the networks. Now what I'm not clear on,
was there a simultaneous
low-quality feed coming live from the moon? I always thought the moon walk
was broadcast live, at
least those grainy videos, but I was only 3 years old then (although I do
remember all of us crowded
around the TV watching the spacemen). Actually, the unfortunate fate of
these tapes PROVES that the
MO you described is best followed.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hodge" <rjhodge@xxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] NASA
Hi Tom,
I realise the NTSC tapes weren't being addressed, it just seems to me
that ANY magnetic tape or sound recording- especiailly when realtive to
the history of the U. S. and especially when supported by taxpayers
dollars - should be held at the LOC. Even if they themselves can't play
them, then at least they would stand a better chance of being preserved
and their whereabouts known..
At least that is my experience with L.O.C. Motion Picture Dept.
Bob
tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 8/15/2006 4:31 PM >>>
Hi Bob:
The issue is that NASA recorded the video in a proprietary format and
fed a converted, lower-quality
NTSC video signal to the networks. The instrumentation tapes contain
the high-quality video stream.
Those tapes are lost. Richard Hess posted a link to a very detailed
report about this a couple weeks
ago. Search back and you'll find much more accurate details than were
in the dumbed-down mainstream
media stories. There was a link to a PDF about the search so far. Those
tapes definitely appear
lost.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hodge" <rjhodge@xxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] RCA Metal Parts in Camden.
I lost the link about the lost NASA tape, but has anyone at NASA
considered asking the Library Of
Congress Motion Picture and Sound division for the videotape ?
They should have it if anyone should.
Bob Hodge
loujudson@xxxxxxx 8/15/2006 2:49 PM >>>
a trivial part of me would love to know who the 'let and what the film
were... to file in the useless but interesting part of the brain,
though that part is too large already! Wonder what her internal drama
was on that night! Got jilted, hated her filmed self, who knows
what...
<L>
Lou Judson * Intuitive Audio
415-883-2689
On Aug 15, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Robert Hodge wrote:
A True Story Of Similar Tone...
A film starlet whose name escapes me presently had borrowed a 35 mm
nitrate print of one of her films from the studio to show at one of
her
parties and when she was through with it, threw the whole print in
the
ocean..
That print was the only surviving print left of that title.
Amazing.....
R.Hodge