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Re: [ARSCLIST] Can 78s sound better than LPs?
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Roger
Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 78 finally submerged in the early 60's. Its last hand-hold ledge was kiddie records. There were
still jazz single mixes for 78 being made as late as the mid-50's. On a lot of Verve sessions, for
example, Norman Granz would just have the musicians cut a 3-minute version in a separate take. I
think some other guys would just splice-edit down to 3 minutes, similar to what came to be common
practice for rock in the mid and late 60's (ie keep the full "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" for the LP but
edit out a few verses to fit a 4-minute 45RPM single).
I'd be wary of a claim that a "modern" 78 could best a 45 LP-groove record. The reason would be
mechanical noise and vibrations from the fast motor speed. I think you'd need a lot of mechanical
damping, even on that $10K record player. 45RPM seems like the best of all worlds, but I still think
a properly made CD sends all grooved disks to the dustbin of history.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Milan P. Milovanovic"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Can 78s sound better than LPs?
> Speaking of this subject (while remembering those 45rpm 1980s 12" maxi singles, and having heard
> some good 78s reocrded properly and in good condition),
> I can only wonder how 78rpm record can sound by using mix of modern and past
> technologies: f.e direct cut for lacquers with wide groove and pressing in
> finest (but thick) vinyl, properly centered and carefully made... Probably
> with magnificent dynamic, resistant to microscopically large scratches or
> dust, and capable of something that 33.3rpm micro record was never capable
> of...
>
> Unfortunately, it was 33.3rpm standard invented as needfulness for
> synchronizing playing early sound movie pictures. And God knows, what
> tomorrow brings.
>
> "Forgotten" audio format, and that 78rpm phonograph record to modern
> technology surely is, can have its renaissance...
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Milan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Olhsson"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Can 78s sound better than LPs?
>
>
>> Marcos Sueiro Bal wrote:
>>>My question is: is the 78 "system" inherently an inferior product?
>>
>> It is inherently a superior product however this allowed greater liberties
>> to be taken in manufacturing quality.
>>
>> For the life of me I don't understand the rationalizations people make for
>> using less than the best available audio technology. Degradation is always
>> a downhill spiral with additional degradation never being obscured by the
>> original level of degradation.
>>
>> In the case of analog disks, every single play degrades the source. There
>> is no legitimate excuse for ever using less than the very best audio
>> technology available.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
>> Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
>> Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
>> 615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com
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