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Re: [ARSCLIST] Fw: [ARSCLIST] Record flattening



Same here,although I would use the term
"flattening",which is why I never tried it.

                                 Roger Kulp

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> Dick Spottswood/dick/AmericanU
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> Two hours to slowly
> heat the disc, and another two hours for the disc to
> cool.
> It will leave a smooth shiny area on convex surfaces
> as
> they get flattened, but under a microscope the
> grooves are
> unaffected.
> 
> I've never been convinced that you can apply heat to
> flatten a disc 
> without partially collapsing groove walls in the
> process.  I don't know 
> about 33s, but heat-flattened 78s sound hissy to my
> ears.
> 
> Before and after photos under that microscope would
> be interesting to see.
> 
> Dick
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> Eric Jacobs <ericj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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> To my knowledge, we are the first (perhaps only) to
> use this
> tool on disc media other than LPs.  Neither the
> manufacturer
> nor the retailers could offer any experience or
> guidance.
> 
> It works on shellacs - we have one, and use it
> regularly.
> Takes about 4 hours to flatten a disc.  Two hours to
> slowly
> heat the disc, and another two hours for the disc to
> cool.
> It will leave a smooth shiny area on convex surfaces
> as
> they get flattened, but under a microscope the
> grooves are
> unaffected.  We also use this on dictation discs
> that have
> been damaged by paperclips or other types of
> creases/folds,
> and it works on the LPs that it was originally
> designed for.
> Some media may require multiple flattening cycles to
> pull
> the warps/creases out - it's taken up to 8 hours
> with some
> types of discs.  We've done extensive experiments
> with
> this to figure out the right timing of
> heating-to-cooling
> and the number of cycles which will have the least
> impact
> on the media.  We've pulled as much as 1/4" to 3/8"
> warps
> out of shellacs - nothing bigger really.  The
> results are
> far better than doing a half-speed transfer, and we
> know
> how to get consistent results.
> 
> The Air Tight device is a pretty big investment.  If
> you
> need to simply have some discs flattened, we do
> offer that
> as an affordable service.  If you want to
> try-before-you-buy,
> you can send your warped discs to us and see if you
> like the
> results.
> 
> Eric Jacobs
> General Manager
> 
> The Audio Archive
> tel: 408.221.2128
> fax: 408.549.9867
> mailto:EricJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:31 PM
> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Record flattening
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> 
> In the current high-end catalog, Musicdirect, a
> record flattening machine 
> is
> offered.  It's at the bottom of p. 30 and called
> "Air Tight DT-01." Anyone
> have experience with it?
> 
> I can't find a manufacter on the net so can't ask
> him questions.  How does
> it work on 78s is the big one.
> 
> Steve Smolian
> 


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