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Re: [ARSCLIST] RealNetworks -- a horrid format from a horrible company
Hi Tom!
You could try real 
alternative.  http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
and this for quicktime: 
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm
It worked for the files i tried to play. I refuse to install the 
"real" real player or quicktime on my computer.
Hope this helps.
Erik
 At 08:12 AM 10/27/2006, you wrote:
OK, now it's time for a short rant, one user's viewpoint. 
Archivists, please avoid using this awful format for your 
public-available content.
My favorite over-Internet radio show, Riverwalk Jazz, had a bonus 
thing -- excerpts from a 1973 WRVR
interview with John Hammond:
http://tinyurl.com/yd6s2e
Unfortunately, no playback options except RealAudio. I smelled 
trouble immediately. Real player launches and
demands to be updated. No playing the clips unless it updates. OK, 
sigh, now I know there's trouble
coming.
Download takes 5 minutes. Install takes another 5 minutes. Then the 
post-install process, where Real
shows itself as the most goniff-y, classless company out there. I 
think all websites should be
strong told by their users and patrons not to use this format. I 
always send messages to webmasters because I feel that Real is truly
a horrible company.
You have to UNSELECT all the formats you don't want Real to take 
over. Instead of telling it what to
do, you have to take 5-10 minutes of CAREFULLY telling it what NOT 
to do, or you'll find that Real
takes over all audio and video formats -- and throws its bloated 
player and ads all over your
computer. Plus, you have to go into buried menus to turn off 
auto-update, and if you don't register
it under a fake e-mail, they will spam you whether you uncheck all 
the spam options or not. HATEFUL!
Oh, and they also default select the pay-to-use player on the 
install, so if you don't pay attention they'll be asking for credit 
card info. Yeah, over my dead body! And these goniffs sued Microsoft 
over alleged "monopoly" issues! At least Microsoft provides a player 
as part of the OS on 95% of desktops, not as some bloated, ad-laden, 
invasive, spamming option.
I sent a very strong e-mail to my friends at Riverwalk about using 
this format. Real should be
driven out of business or forced to change their 
spamming/invasive/toxicware ways.
By the way, Quicktime is the same kind of setup -- you have to 
carefully go thru several steps or it will also take over all your 
media formats. Big strike against Apple on that. Also, Quicktime 
used to be toxic to some Windows computers, although that's improved 
in recent versions. But I wouldn't have Quicktime on any of my 
computers if it wasn't required for iTunes.
-- Tom Fine