Re: [ARSCLIST] Szell on MAR Was:Bernstein info needed

[Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think this sort of stuff goes back to Stokowski in the 30s.I have at least two Victor sets,where they needed a filler for the last side of a piece,and Stoki would sit at a piano,and outline the themes for a piece.

I  find it very sad,that we are at a point,where there is no attempt made to introduce the classics to a mass audience,as there was in previous generations. Caruso and his generation were best sellers.Toscanini and The NBC Symphony.The Met  was on AM commercial radio up until the middle 1980s.The great Yehudi Menhuin clips on YouTube,were first shown in movie theaters alongside Bugs Bunny cartoons.(Don't get me started about Looney Tunes.) Toscanini,Bruno Walter,Charles Munch,and Leonard Bernstein were all regularly seen on early TV.This all seems to have stopped about the time The Fairness Doctrine went in.Hmmm. 

Makes you wonder where all those 20 something classical vinyl collectors I see came from...

                              Roger

Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Don't diss these records.  The analysis is often terrific- the Haydn 102 is 
particularly outstanding.  Many of the analysis examples are separarely 
recorded for this series and dissect the music in a way not possible by just 
cutting up a complete recording.  Bernstein used this technique in some of 
his TV talks as well.

I give copies to friends who've played in bands and are otherwise pop music 
savvy to bring them into the tent.  It gives them an idea of a further level 
of muiscal; compexity- form, subtle thematic and harmonic connections that 
explain why one symphonic movement is organically connected with another, 
etc.

Someone should find the tapes and, using the same or similar scripts, 
replace Sherman's drawly voice with a that of a more ordinary announcer and 
reissue them.

Steve Smolian
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From: "David Lennick" 
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Szell on MAR Was:Bernstein info needed


> Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
>> I went and dug them out.I have three Music Appreciation Records by 
>> Szell,one is the Mozart 39,with an analysis on the back.The second one is 
>> MAR 26,the Bach Suite No 3 For Orchestra(Columbia stamper),and the other 
>> is The Firebird Suite  MAR 5611,simply credited as  "Symphony Orchestra" 
>> with Szell."PB" logo in stamper.On side two,is the Stravinsky Duo 
>> Concertant,with Louis Kaufman,and Helene Pignari.These are in paper 
>> covers.I also have a 1957 Music Appreciation Records issue,MAR 577, of 
>> the 1951 Otto Klemperer Beethoven "Pastoral", recorded for Vox.This is 
>> the only record I have seen which has the logos of the original 
>> label,prominently on the cover and label.
>>  Roger Kulp
>
> Anything they licensed from Angel has that logo prominently displayed.
>
> dl
>> Lani Spahr  wrote: ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Roger and Allison Kulp thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>> BTW,I also have a George Szell MAS Lp of two Mozart Symphonies,also 
>>> credited as "The Music Appreciation
>>> Symphony Orchestra",which I have not been able to find in any 
>>> discography.
>>
>> Two? There is the Mozart 39, which is listed in the discography section 
>> of Donald Rosenberg's book about the Cleveland Orch. I wasn't aware of 
>> another Mozart symphony. Which one is it? Very curious.
>>
>> BTW, it was the Real Cleveland Orchestra that did those recordings.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lani Spahr.
>>
>>
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