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Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might <snip>
You would be surprised at all of the under 20s I meet,tracking down old vinyl,from the 60s-80s.I know about all of the various legal issues involving Beatles music.But Beatles ringtones are already out there.A Google search for "Beatles ringtones" and "Beatles ring tones",gives you about three million results combined.I'm sure you're aware of the RIAA decision last year about same.
Well,I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't ask you about stuff,but as you can see there is a mind-blowing amount of stuff out there collectors just do not know about.There is a wealth of information in those label archives,that most collectors,authors,and historians will never have a chance to see.Somehow,I don't think this is right.There ought to be a better way of handling it.
Roger
"Andes, Donald" <Donald.Andes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It gets exhausting when you figure that EMI UK stuff gets it's US
release on EMI US, or Capitol, or ____. Then there's EMI owned labels
like Mute records, that gets released in the US by Warner Brothers,
because of an existing deal that Mute/WB had before EMI acquired it.
You can only image the tangled web of tracing things back through 60+
years (Capitol) and 100+ years (EMI).
So please don't take it personally if I don't have time to chase down
answers to all of explicitly detailed questions I've received since my
posting yesterday.
My guess would easily be over 100 owned and/or distributed labels in the
US alone. Most are now defunct, but they still fill our history and our
archive.
The problem now is that there is more stuff being released, in more
versions (remix, video mix, radio mix, etc.) on more formats (Digital
Album Download, Digital Single Download, Video Single Download, CD, CD
w/bonus disc, CD Single....Ring tones). Things like ring tones become
archival issues, and they're hardly classified as archival. However,
when some artist does 1,000,000 ring tone sales, which generates $X
million in sales, you think about holding onto them...
Who knows, maybe in 5 years we'll be selling "Best of the Beatles" ring
tones sets?
Everyone things it odd how the younger generation gladly pays up to
$2.50 for a 5 sec SUB mp3 quality downloadable ring tone, but has no
interest in buying an hour long high quality (16Bit/44.1k) for $10 CD.
But understanding THAT logic (which doesn't require agreeing with it),
is a step in the right direction for the industry.
"Perhaps music isn't what it was, when we were who they are."
Don Andes
EMI Music
Director of Archives
-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger and Allison Kulp
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:36 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might
It's more than you might think.Off the top of my head,I can think of
like six or eight US Capitol subsidary labels,from the 70s or 80s,that
only a handful of 45s were issued on.
Roger
"Andes, Donald" wrote: Wow, that's a good
question. One that gets asked a lot INTERNALLY as well.
Are you talking current, or all of the labels we have owned?
Either way, I don't have a complete list off of the top of my head.
Don Andes
Director Archives
EMI Music
-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lennick
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:42 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might
What other labels have come under the EMI umbrella? Imperial, Liberty,
United Artists come to mind.
dl
Andes, Donald wrote:
> As the Director of Archives I oversee the collection, cataloging, and
> storage of all Creative assets (Audio/Video/Film/Photo/Artwork) for
> EMI in the US. I don't deal with any legal, accounting, or contractual
> paperwork as that is stored in paper vaults under someone else's
> careful watch.
>
> I do have metal parts, 16" transcription discs, 78's LP's, ect. as
> well as analog tape, digital tape, cd's, dvd's, and most other media
> storage formats. I also keep session notes, recording logs, release
books, etc.
>
> If it came out in the US with EMI/Capitol/Virgin/Blue Note (or any
> other subsidiary label) then technically I should have the masters and
> 2 copies of the finished product.
>
> The job keeps me pretty busy, which is why I lurk more then I post in
> this forum.
>
> Don Andes
> Director of Archives
> EMI Music
>
> P.S. I don't do the suing.....Legal Affairs gets that job.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:07 PM
> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might
>
> Steven C. Barr(x) wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andes, Donald"
>>> Don Andes
>>> Director of Archives
>>> EMI Music
>>>
>> Your signature caught my eye! Are these archives of masters/metal
>> parts, archived recording ledgers, or some completely different form
> of "archive?"
>> Steven C. Barr
>>
>>
> Or is this the guy who's going to sue me for transferring 51-year-old
> Capitols for offshore CD reissues? I know NUSSING........
>
> xq
>
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