Hi John:
You don't want to hear any more of my thoughts because I just know  WHAT I recommend to 
institutional clients (managed, redundant, off- site-mirrored storage), I am not expert enough to 
get into any nuts  and bolts. I should have probably not mentioned specific  listmembers because 
I know there are other experts, such as  yourself. What I tell my institutional clients is that 
THEY or  someone on their staff needs to understand this stuff and find a  vendor or an in-house 
IT guy who can do it to a level of permanence  and redundancy that works for their archive. I 
would argue that,  for an institution, it's actually much more important to understand  the nuts 
and bolts of digital storage than to understand audio.  Guys like me -- people who will do your 
audio transfer and do a  better job than your broken-down in-house equipment and non-expert 
labor can achieve -- we're plentiful. But once our work is done,  the institution needs to live 
with the pile of digital files, and  hopefully store them in a manner that will make the cost of 
my work  a one-time expense. This will become even more important a couple  decades down the line 
when their original analog source material  (or even digital source material like DATs or ADAT) 
becomes  unplayable or playback equipment simply doesn't exist (very likely  in the case of DAT, 
for instance).
So, to be honest, I don't have any thoughts worth sharing on OAIS  compliance.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Spencer"  <js@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Well, Tom,
I'm not anyone of the folks you mention below, but we have  several  LTO drives scattered across 
the country to support our  local storage  networks. The supplemental migration cost of LTO 
tapes (skipping 2  generations) is very low and affordable for  most of our clients. At  some 
point, I'm sure we'll have another  high-density storage format  to use as we piggyback on the 
LTO  roadmap until then.
I'd like to hear your thoughts more on the management of storage.  Are  you referring to an OAIS 
compliant repository, or other methods?
Jim Lindner made a pretty good case for LTO over on the AMIA list   within the last couple of 
days, and they are dealing with video/  film  scan file sizes.
-John
John Spencer
BMS/ Chace LLC
1801 8th Ave. S.  Suite 200
Nashville, TN 37203
office (615) 385-1251
fax (615) 385-0153
cell (615) 714-1199
email: js@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bridgemediasolutions.com
On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
I hope Richard and/or Parker and/or Spec Bros. jump in here. The   ONLY answer is managed and 
constantly migrated storage. You  simply  cannot live by the old "put it on a shelf in a clean, 
cool room"  idea anymore. Digital storage must be in constant  motion --  literally since hard 
drives have been known to fail or  never start  up again if left idle on a shelf (ask around 
Hollywood, everyone  has a horror story or two). You have to plan  to have a "living"  hard 
drive array that is redundant,  preferably with a constantly  mirrored clone at a different 
location, and plan on swapping out  drives every XX hours of use  or at worst when they 
inevitably fail. There are firms that do  this on an out-source basis, I think. I  believe the 
90's dot- bomb term was "storage farms." Some of them  are actually located  in old bomb 
shelters and missle bunkers.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message ----- From: "andy kolovos"   <akolovos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Lauren,
As a short-to-medium-term storage solution--and as a part of a   more comprehensive 
approach--multiple HDD is the best most of  us  can do at this point in time.
I prefer Maxtor and Western Digital drives, and I favor those  that  come in enclosures that 
offer FireWire and an on/off  switch.  Very  vexing to have no on/off switch.
In some cases it can be more cost effective to purchase Maxtor/ WD  internal drives, reliable 
external enclosures and build  them  yourself. I've had good luck with the "Neptune" line of 
enclosures  from Other World Computing (http:// eshop.macsales.com/shop/ 
firewire/add-ons-and-hubs/enclosure- kits) and have heard good  things about their "Mercury 
Elite"  enclosures as well.
As others have mentioned, just like Coco Puffs are part of a   complete breakfast that 
includes toast, juice and etc.,  external  HDD is part of comprehensive, lower-cost storage 
approach that includes optical disc and linear tape.
Not all of us can swing a RAID array.  Do the best you can with   what you have.
best,
andy
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Andy Kolovos
Archivist/Folklorist
Vermont Folklife Center
3 Court Street ; P.O. Box 442
Middlebury, VT 05753
(802) 388-4964
akolovos @ vermontfolklifecenter.org
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