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Re: [ARSCLIST] original audio containers
I have record store sleeves from the UK from the 1910s(Green pulp cardboard like in Victor albums.),and from Australia,from the 20s.The latter,thanks to eBay,and has multiple record label logos on it.Some of the UK ones have cool graphics,like a drawing of a horn radio.In fact,I have a custom album,made for a UK record store for 1921 Erika Morinis on black HMV (Another eBay find a few years back.)
Are there any special company sleeves for the early Berliners ?
I have a few actual sleeves printed for record stores,probably in the 1940s.I have a particularly cool one from a Cincinatti store,that has a bellhop cartoon character,whose body is a record.I'll take some pictures sometime of my sleeve oddities,and post a photo album of them, over at the Yahoo! 78 label group sometime.
As for label-printed carry bags,I have a rare European Polydor one for 45s,from the early 60s.
It was my understanding in the early decades (1877-1927 or thereabouts.) records were sold at department and music/musical instrument stores,where they had a few popular titles for sale,but everything else was special ordered through catalogues.Is this correct ? I have never seen a photo of a big "record store" older than 1939.
Roger
"Steven C. Barr(x)" <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger and Allison Kulp"
> I would agree with Steven here.Pre-1930 Columbia sleeves are ridiculously hard
to find,and are far more prone to falling apart than Brunswick and Victor of the
same period.
>
> There are a lot more smaller labels of the acoustic era,that I am not sure
were issued in label/stock sleeves.Some I know are out there(?),but have never
seen."It's a Winner" anyone?
>
> US record store sleeves of the 78 era are also quite rare too.
>
First, my experience has been that older Columbia sleeves aren't that
hard to find...but, once found, are usually disintegrating! They used
a heavier, green-tinged stock...which seems to dissolve itself over
ensuing years.
Second, many...if not MOST...of the "indie" labels of the twenties
probably never had their own sleeves printed.
Third, the practice of record stores having their own "replacement"
sleeves created for the records they sold seems to have first originated
post-WWII. Occasionaly, one can find a label-specific sleeve with the
dealer's name stamped thereupon; however, what seems to be more common
are dealer-imprinted "carry bags" in which the customer took his new
records home. Some of these seem to have been provided by labels, for
their dealers.
Finally, the one thing we DON'T know is exactly how records were sold
in the twenties and previous! I have flyers from the late thirties,
made for a record dealer, which announce and list the latest releases
from a large variety (insofar as such existed at that point) of labels...
but, were there any "record stores" that carried a large number of
labels and let the customer choose whose version he/she/it wanted?
If not, who sold the variety of small "indie" labels that appeared
between 1919 and c.1926?! (store-specific labels excluded, of course...)
Steven C. Barr
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