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Re: [ARSCLIST] Surround releases (was OK - Does Anyone Know More About This?)
I get a pretty good sound field from Magnepan 2.6R, which are dipole
ribbon tweeters, with planar -magnetic woofers.. They approximate the
diffuse sound field you get in a real life auditorium. Not at all
accurate if they are too close to an untreated wall (no diffusors, or
records or...) since you get pretty bad comb filtering. When you get
them far enough from the walls and/or have the walls treated, the sound
is remarkably like that of a concert hall. The only place I've heard
surround sound, like the surround sound most producers want to put on
record, was in band/orchestra/choir. I always sit in the 2nd/3rd
balcony when I go to a concert and the only surround sound is coughing,
cell phones ringing, etc.... How about getting big speakers in a big
room with big amps? If you turn it up loud enough, the reflected sound
will get louder too--just a thought.
Phillip
Tom Fine wrote:
I'd love to see something like these Monster DVD's as reissues of all
the old quad mixes of early 70's rock albums. If the 4-track quad
master tape still exists, it would not be a huge technical feat to
encode the quad as Dolby AC3+ADs- I'd just keep it 4-channel but you
could slice out the subwoofer frequencies and make a center channel
out of the common lef/right content minus 3dB. Of course, this could
just as easily be done as discrete 4-channel DVD-Audio at 96/24. I'm
pretty sure but not positive that most of the installed base of DVD
players do DVD-Audio and most players made over the past 3-5 years
have 5.1 analog outputs.
One thing that might have killed SACD is that record labels invested a
lot of money in the format by remixing classic albums from scratch
instead of dusting off the quad mix to see how the format would fly
and thus being able to invest more in marketing. But SACD had problems
from the get-go. When it came down the pike, the DVD group made all
sorts of announcements about DVD-Audio as a competing format, making
sure to point out that most or all DVD players can do DVD audio as
part of the standard format. Sony and Philips first pushed SACD as the
be-all-and-end-all 2-channel format, supposed to replace the CD. Then
at the AES show 4 years ago, I noticed the DVD-Audio group just had a
table and was handing out brochures but Philips and Sony had
relaunched SACD as a multi-channel format and had a huge demo room
with lines forming for each hour-long demo. That was probably the high
water mark of interest in SACD, but the public at large never bothered
with it. Most +ACI-civilians+ACI- I know -- people who aren't in the
audio business nor are audiophiles, but many of whom love music and
listen to it all the time -- have never heard of SACD. Bad marketing
or just a total lack of interest in formats beyond the CD and now the
iPod?
My own take on surround audio is that it's a neat/fun gimmick but it's
not necessary to enjoy high-fidelity music recordings. Very few people
I know are willing to sit in a sweet spot -- and most of their wives
will have nothing to do with 5 large speakers and a subwoofer in the
listening room -- for an album-length amount of time just to enjoy a
musical experience. Especially since some would argue that the
headphone/earbud experience is psychologically all-encompassing even
more than 5 speakers. So I think we fans of surround-sound music
releases and owners of surround-sound systems are +ACI-doomed+ACI- to
a permanent if enthusiastic fringe.
-- Tom Fine
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