Re: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Early DG 78s/History

[David Lennick <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought the plain black label (no dog, no logo nohow) came along around the 
time the label was cohabiting with Telefunken, and was followed by the Siemens 
Special label, both preceding the familiar yellow label.

dl

Steven Smolian wrote:
> DGG ran two labels and printed two sets of catalogs and supplements 
> simultaniously, from the time the "who owns what" mess was resolved in 
> 1922(?) and the policy continued until the end of WW II.  They used the 
> dog and horn logo inside Germany as "Schallplatte Grammophon", later 
> "Grammophon," and "Polydor" without.  For Opera Disc, the export label 
> used to the US only (?) until nipper's fate was decided, see the entry 
> in Sutton's "American Labels and Companies."  Post WWI the company was 
> independent of the Gramophone Company.  To reenter the German markert, 
> the English folks set up Electrola.  Niipper went back to the English 
> folks after WW II.
>
> Steve Smolian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger and Allison Kulp" 
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> > "Steven C. Barr(x)" <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -
> > Well...if it were pre-mid 1914 (and the outbreak of WWI)...wouldn't it
> > still include Nipper on its label(s)? The Gramophone Company, IIRC,
> > set up subsidiary operations in virtually all European countries...
> > and in each case the labels carried Nipper as well as a local-
> > language translation of "His Master's Voice"...right?
> >
> > In any case, as I understand it, DG DID continue to press records
> > in Germany...including "pirated" versions of Victor Red Seal discs
> > for which they had stampers. Since WWI divided the two groups of
> > nations, each one as the others' "enemy," I would guess questions
> > regarding the ownership of "enemy" copyrights were ignored by
> > German courts.
> >
> > DID "Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft" (I assume this was the
> > German name of their branch...?!) issue records bearing pictures
> > of "Nipper," and contemporary Victor and HMV(UK) sides? Or, were
> > Gramophone-Company-related sides simply NOT issued in "enemy
> > countries? As well, did DGG continue to exist once Electrola
> > was established...or did it simply disappear temporarily?
> >
> > Steven C. Barr
> > Nipper was on the labels,until 1945.If I could post pictures here,I 
> > would.They did not,as far as I know,issue anything other than DGG 
> > artists on this label.(Berlin Philharmonic,Wilhelm Kempff,etc,)DGG 
> > also issued Decca (US) jazz,on Brunswick after the 1933 ban.There is a 
> > long out of print book on jazz in Nazi Germany,published sometime in 
> > the 80s.(I have it somewhere.It has saxophones forming a swastika on 
> > the cover.)This book reprints part of a 1937 German Brunswick jazz 
> > record catalog.Anyone recall the name of this book,I can't offhand.
> >
> > As for records from enemy countries,I have wartime Nippon Columbia 
> > 78s,by Bob Wills,Leon McCauliff,and Spade Cooley.I thought an old 78 
> > hand like you might know about such stuff.
> >
> >                                    Roger
> >
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