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Re: [ARSCLIST] Panorama of Musique Concrete..le Help!



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Steven C. Barr(x) wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Is anyone out there familiar enough with the Ducretet-Thomson Panorama of
> >> Musique Concrete LP to be able to tell me what the hell is actually on each
> >> side? No matter how I count 'em, there are more tracks than titles..or
less,
> >> depending on how you identify them. One set that could conceivably take 3
cuts
> >> (Schaeffer's "3 Directions") is either one track, with an orphaned cut at
the
> >> end of the disc, or DOES run for 3 cuts and then "Musical Box" actually
> > doesn't
> >> exist. And side 1 has 9 bands, but only 8 possible titles. (Could "Musical
> > Box"
> >> actually be the last cut on Side 1? This actually makes sense....)
> >>
> > A concept now rendered obsolete by digital recording and distribution!
> > The user without a reliable microscope is forced to accept whatever
> > his/her/its CD player assumes the "tracks" are...with NO visible
> > evidence thereunto...?!
> >
> > In any case, I would recommend actually PLAYING the dommed thing,
> > while observing exactly where one's stylus is (on the disc) as
> > "tracks" begin and end...?!
> >
> > It could be worse...think of the hapless deejays who were trying
> > to play requested tunes on the Sgt. Pepper's LP...?!
> >
> > Steven C. Barr
> >
> >
> Nope..played 'em, followed the program notes, but I still have one track too
> many on side one and one too few on side two. I suspect that "Musical Box" is
> somewhere on side one, but it's possible that there's a phantom track on S1
and
>   other things happening on S2. If you've ever heard "Musique Concrete",
you'll
> know that the descriptions of the material could apply to practically anything
> that made a noise and could be amplified, modified, looped (or groove-locked
in
> earlier days) etc.
>
Well, I would have guessed that "Musique Concrete" was:

1) played on Route 66, and/or other "hard roads"...?

2) played on poured foundations...?

3) played on what are usually (and erroneously) called "cinder blocks"...?

4) played on public sidewalks...?

However, from your description, it would appear to be rather abstract...
thus generating a significant conflict in description...?!

Steven C. Barr


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