Re: [ARSCLIST] Audio History In a Nutshell?

[Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx>]

My understanding was that the 78 of the Brahms was lacquer of which more 
than one copy was made rather than a pressing.  If that counts then the 
number could be infinite.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lewis" <davlew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Was the Brahms cylinder ever on commercial 78?

I believe there was a commemorative 78 of the Brahms issued in 1933 (or
maybe later on some other anniversary relating to Brahms? in the 1930s, tho)
that is currently the source of most transfers as, as Dr. Biel has explained
in detail elsewhere, the original (now broken, sadly) is unable to yield a
result superior to the disc. I didn't suggest it as I don't know of a CD
release, though there probably is one, and I don't know where it might be
downloaded.

David N. Lewis
Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide

Maybe music was not intended to satisfy the curious definiteness of man.
Maybe it is better to hope that music may always be transcendental language
in the most extravagant sense. ~ Charles Ives


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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:49 AM
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You'd have to research this.

My guess would be the Pope Leo XIII cylinder and probably similar
documentary items- Queen Victoris, Tolstoi, etc.

Bettini cylinders

Mapleson cylinders

Many Edisons the other way around- discs, tdubbed to cylinder.

Was the Brahms cylinder ever on commercial 78?

If you count dictation cylinders, probably more, among  religious figures.

Steve Smolian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Levinson" <aaron.levinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:05 AM
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> Does anyone know of a single recording that started life as a cylinder
> migrated to 78 went over to Microgroove eventually ended up on CD and
> finally is now offered as an mp3? I'm sure such a thing must exist and I'm

> equally someone on this list knows what it is. I'm not at all sure why
> this thought came to me last night at 1:00 as a I lay in bed. But the true

> beauty of the internet is that the next morning I can post this very
> question instead of torturing myself for the rest of my natural life in
> the twilight of uncertainty.
>
> AA