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Re: [ARSCLIST] 78rpm archaeology project



I just bought a set of 4 DVDS which are made up of industrial films of various technologies. The one for records shows the Victor plant recording through the matrix prosess through manufacture in the pressing plant.

The other volumes cover TV, radio and newspaper. Found it at Buy it Now on Ebay for $ 30 or $ 40 the set. It's well worth the $$.

The set is available from EarthStation1.com. Check it out.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Mueller-Heubach" <ommuel@xxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] 78rpm archaeology project



For my two final papers/proposal, I am writing a semifictional lead-in from the
perspective of a 78, from pressing to excavation by an archaeologist. This sort
of intro actually has a bit of precedence among archaeologists, though they
usually write from the point of view of human agents. I have been watching the
National Telefilms "Making Records with Duke Ellington" short and am
wondering- was each batch of shellac compound really put into a press by hand
or was it much more mechanized and they just showed the waffle-iron press to
elucidate the process? I assume the label is applied after the record emerges
from the press..or? Here's the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=hjKlFFp4-IE
Thanks!
---- Original message ----
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:28:52 -0600
From: Jeffrey Kane <jeffkane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] 78rpm archaeology project
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Regarding extracting audio... sounds like a job for IRENE if it were to work
at all.


http://irene.lbl.gov/

As to the rest; I'll be very interested to see the responses. Given how
difficult it can be to track such characteristics when dealing with unbroken
artifacts the mind boggles at attempting to do the same for a mass of
fragments!


-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oliver Mueller-Heubach
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:12 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ARSCLIST] 78rpm archaeology project

Hello all- I'm finally back to work on my paper on the archaeological 78
fragments. Just thought I'd post again- looking for information on matrix
numbers. Say I handed you a fragment of 78 with a whole or partial matrix
number.. What are some differences between how the different companies
numbered discs- including the physical engraving/stamping font, placement,
etc.? I am going through my shelf, measuring edges, recording space, etc.
trying to come up with a trait list by brand, date range, etc. The audio
recovery
portion is rather 'dead in the water' at present. I have had several folks
tell me
that the digital restoration techniques are only set up to restore intact or
near-
intact records. Also, there seems to be a consensus that no database exists
that
would allow an automatic search to match the sound chart from a fragment to
digitized recordings. I tried my analog approach of physically cutting and
pasting a fragment into a rough but intact disc. I actually got it to work
once,
albeit with a few skips (I had inserted a black label RCA Victor fragment
into a
thrashed RCA Victor donor disc). I thought I could hear a horn and imagined
a
larger band in the rapid blurbs of sound. As this may have been an artifact
of
my knowing the source of the fragment (Guy Lombardo from the bottom of a
sleeve in an auction box lot) I would have had to do a blind test.
Unfortunately, I
have not been able to repeat the success- aligning the pitch/spiral is much
more difficult than I thought. At any rate, it is entirely too much of a
nuisance to
be applied in an archaeological lab environment. So, if anyone has any
further
suggestions on extracting audio, I would be very grateful! I'm afraid I'll
have to
stick to the trait lists and to recommendations for interpreting 78s
vis-a-vis
their find condition, location on a home-site, etc. Thanks again- happy
holidays!
ollie


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