Re: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Kleiber Question

[Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>]

I was unaware of the Vienna recording.When was it made ?


                                        Roger

Don Tait <Dontaitchicago@xxxxxxx> wrote:   Roger, you are writing about London LLP 239 -- the Eroica with the 
Concertgebouw Orchestra of Amsterdam conducted by Erich Kleiber.

  The original post about this concerned the Eroica with the Vienna 
Philharmonic conducted by Erich Kleiber. Different orchestras. The recordings were made 
approximately five years apart.

  "London" was the name used by UK Decca for their records in the USA.

  Don Tait

  


**************
Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape.
     
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Yes Don,it was LL 239,or something along those lines.Some day when I feel better,I'll dig it out and put it on.This recording dates from 1950.

So is this one of those records that was issued in the US on London at the time, and not on Decca in the UK ? Or is this a different recording entirely than the 1950 one ? Kleiber died in '56,so there may be at least stereo recording on him ? Is there a 1956 Mozart opera with him that was done in stereo.

                                          Roger

Don Tait  wrote:   I believe Don Cox is correct. I remember that when the recording was issued 
on Richmond (the bargain-priced London Records label) in the USA around 1959, 
both the ads in Schwann and the record cover said it was the first release -- 
in the USA, anyway. I can't confirm it because I wouldn't know in which issue 
of Schwann to look and replaced the crummy American Decca-pressed Richmond 
record years ago.

  Also years ago, Mike Gray told me that this performance had been recorded 
in stereo but that the stereo master was accidentally "wiped" (erased). Perhaps 
that accounted for the delay in releasing it; perhaps not. Decca/London had 
the Kleiber/Concertgebouw Eroica on LLP 239, referred to in an earlier post. 
But in 1959, when this was issued, stereo LPs were a reality. Could they have 
decided to issue it, mono only, before an expected stereo wave would make it 
seem obsolete?

  Don Tait


**************
Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in 
shape.
     http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
On 10/01/08, David Lennick wrote:
> Was Erich Kleiber's Vienna Philharmonic recording of Beethoven's
> Eroica Symphony ever issued on Decca LXT 5064? WERM Supplement 3 says
> it was assigned that number but may not have been placed on sale, and
> I don't find a London listing for it anywhere in the 50s. Was Ace of
> Clubs ACL 35 its first issue?
> 
> dl

ACL 35 is reviewed in The Gramophone, May 1959. The reviewer says this
is the first issue, and that the record was announced in 1956 but "has
never till now appeared".

So I think you can stop looking for LXT 5064.

Regards
-- 
Don Cox
doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


       
---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.


       
---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.