Re: [ARSCLIST] LC Record Cleaning Solution

[Andy Lanset <andy.lanset@xxxxxxxxx>]

Kurt,

About 8 months ago I contacted Dow Chemical and their rep said the Triton
could be replaced with Triton DF-16 or Tergitol 15-S-7 or 15-S-9.

Andy Lanset
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On Feb 19, 2008 1:43 PM, Kurt Nauck <nauck@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks again, Gene!
>
> At 12:06 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote:
> >Kurt,
> >
> >The ammonia and Oakite are additives for the old Triton solution
> >only.  I have no idea whether they can be safely added to the
> >Tergitol solution, but I can tell you that LC is not doing
> >so.  Also, I'm not aware of any comparison to other products made by
> >the LC Preservation Research and Testing Division when they
> >developed the Tergitol solution.  Given the quantities needed here,
> >they wanted an effective solution that could be prepared in our labs
> >at a reasonable cost and that was very safe to use.
> >
> >Gene
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks Gene
> >
> >So if I wanted to clean lacquers, I could still add 20ml/gal of the
> >ammonia liquor, and if I wanted to inhibit future mold growth, I
> >could still add the Oakite. In other words, LC doesn't know of any
> >chemical reason why these ingredients would not mix properly. I
> >understand you'll probably have to throw a disclaimer into your answer!
> >
> >I am curious as to whether or not your research department tried the
> >various record cleaning solutions currently on the market. Were they
> >no more effective than the Tergitol, or was it more of a cost
> >consideration? If Tergitol was no more effective, was it at least
> >comparable to the better cleaners you tried?
> >
> >
> >Kurt Nauck
> >
> >c/o Nauck's Vintage Records
> >22004 Sherrod Ln.
> >Spring, TX  77389
> >
> >Website: www.78rpm.com
> >E-Mail: nauck@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >Phone: (281) 288-7826
> >Fax: (425) 930-6862
> >
> >Gene DeAnna
> >Head, Recorded Sound Section
> >MBRS Division
> >Library of Congress
> >(202) 707-3108
> >
> > >>> Kurt Nauck <nauck@xxxxxxxxx> 2/19/2008 11:55 AM >>>
> >At 08:55 AM 2/19/2008, you wrote:
> > >Kurt,
> > >
> > >On the recommendation of the LC Preservation Research and Testing
> > >Division, we've replaced the Triton formula with the Tergitol and
> > >water formula they devised.  The chemist there felt it was safer for
> > >staff to use, less corrosive, but strong enough to be
> > >effective.  We've found it to work well on shellac, vinyl and
> > >lacquer discs, though probably not as well as the Triton/ammonia
> > >formula for extremely dirly lacquers.
> > >
> > >Gene
>
>
>  Kurt Nauck
>
> c/o Nauck's Vintage Records
> 22004 Sherrod Ln.
> Spring, TX  77389
>
> Website: www.78rpm.com
> E-Mail: nauck@xxxxxxxxx
>
> Phone: (281) 288-7826
> Fax: (425) 930-6862
>