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Re: [ARSCLIST] The Hope of Audacity Was--Re: [ARSCLIST] Seeking recommendations for oral history digitization equipment (fwd)



I believe George Blood is on this list. George, could you share your test results? I'd be interested to know your methodology. Given all the bit-mangling that seems to go on in various hardware and software, I will say that at first glance I am not surprised, unfortunately. But I'd like to know the science behind the claims.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Hess" <arclists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The Hope of Audacity Was--Re: [ARSCLIST] Seeking recommendations for oral history digitization equipment (fwd)



At 09:14 AM 2008-08-17, Mike Hirst wrote:

However, reading Goran Finnberg's comments re the work do[n]e by George Blood, I am surprised to find that different combinations of software and hardware can produce different results. Am I to understand that Adobe Audition, for example, will capture audio differently when used with an M-Audio card, for example, than it would when combined with an E-MU or SoundBlaster card? does it then follow that the same card combined with different software would produce different results? Is this something I should worry about? What is the extent of this discrepancy and how best can I avoid it?

Hello, Mike,


I, too, found this interesting. It lends some credence to the comments from a friend of mine that he thinks Samplitude sounds better than WaveLab -- a result I don't (yet?) hear. He has a Benchmark D-A converter and I have an RME Multiface (now version II on the main channels, though I did the original listing on an original Multiface).

On another note:
I am actually glad that I invested in WaveLab as it does some things that Samplitude doesn't. The tools that I have used several times are:


- compare to audio files: it will not only say if the AUDIO is the same or different (independent of the metadata) it will also attempt to clarify the difference, so that would be easy to detect the 0.2 dB level shift that was commented on earlier in this thread.

- split WAV files on cue marks. With Samplitude working in a virtual mode, CDs come out as one file with track marks. It is convenient in WaveLab to break the one long file into individual files for distribution of individual selections on the Web. I then run a batch MP3 convert in Samplitude to generate the individual MP3s, but it's faster to take the marked WAV file into WaveLab to do the split than to do it in Samplitude.

The reason that I invested in WaveLab was that version 6.0 refused to read some files that Samplitude 10.0.1 produced and it seems that there were errors on both sides as WaveLab 6.1 read the files that 6.0 could not, and Samplitude 10.1 appears to have fixed the BEXT chunk errors that were causing the issue with WaveLab 6.0 (a terminating CR/LF pair or something like that was omitted by Samplitude). Between the cost of WaveLab and my time, that was probably a $1500 software glitch for me!

Cheers,

Richard



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