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Re: [ARSCLIST] ELP Turntable (Re(2): [ARSCLIST] RIAA EQ software)

Hi David,

If you have a Monks cleaning machine, we need to give you a pass on the cars.

Tonight I played more tapes on my ATR. Sue has no idea as to the cost of the ATR as I' dragged about 30 pro RTR machines home over the last year. They all look the same and she's gotten used to it. The ATR is different as it looks new. Sue has overlooked the acoutrements of the machines so they all look the same to her, that's good for me!! She knows that tape machines are old and cheap<*>

The sound of great analog can be appreciated on a system set up in an appropriate room with good gear. Neither the room nor gear need to be expansive or expensive, but it helps.

Those of you that have the ability to record live music in a real space can appreciate the talent you've refined over the years. Being an audiophile, I have the option of listening to the music recorded by the best; whatever the medium will be.

  Ken
On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:45 PM, David Lennick wrote:

I can't remember the last time my timbers were shivered. But my faithful Monks Record Cleaning Machine cost more than my first two cars combined.

dl

Ken Fritz wrote:
Gentleman,
If you play LP's on a Silvertone changer, handed down from your dad, listen on a system from Best Buy, You'll concur with this posting.
With all due respect to those that posted to this topic, Vinyl cleaned properly, played on a top of the line TT - arm - cartridge set up will sound good enough to shiver your timbers. In some cases, the cost of a vinyl playback system to shiver your timbers may cost as much as a a fine German sports car.
Until you hear vinyl on a GREAT system, you won't realize how good the medium of the past really is.
Being an analog guy myself; CD's, digital and pro tools take second place to the sound my Ampex ATR , Koetsu, Dynavector and My Sonic Labs cartridges deliver. Being 66 years of age, I may be wrong but my ears are happy.
Relax, and enjoy the music. Ken
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Charles Lawson wrote:
Tom Fine writes:
The LP has just too many limitations -- fuzzy midrange on peaks, ticks
and pops, rumble
and surface noise, poor channel separation at certain frequencies. It's
always amazing to me when
the things sound great -- I tip my hat to the mastering folks and
pressing folks who make that
happen. I'm old enough to remember the era before CD's. NO THANKS!

I’m right there with you, Tom. I’d never go back.

I hope it was clear from my postings that I am not *advocating* using disc
restorations as the preferred method of transferring older recordings to
the digital realm. I am only noting that, in some cases when the master
tapes have deteriorated far enough, disc restorations can yield a more
listenable product than the bad masters. OF COURSE digital re- issues
should be made from original source materials if those materials are
well-cared-for and in good shape. However, I have heard (and own a few)
major label CD re-issues that suffer from all sorts of problems that the
same material originally issued on LP does not exhibit—and it’s not just
poor quality-control at the digital remastering stage.

The LP as a medium has all kinds of problems that bug me (as LPs always
have!), but some of my old LPs when thoroughly cleaned and played through
the LT with DSP EQ, etc. yield a more listenable product than some of the
CD re-issues that supposedly use original masters. Properly manufactured
vinyl will generally hold up better than audio tape. It’s just physics.

I am booked up pretty solidly for the next little while, but if I can put
together a few A-Bs, I’ll be happy to share ’em.

Chas.

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Charles Lawson <clawson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Professional Audio for CD, DVD, Broadcast & Internet

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