Re: [ARSCLIST] SSS Agfa [WAS: Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?]

[Nigel Barrett <nigelinseychelles@xxxxxxxxx>]

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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Tommy Sjöberg <
tommy.sjoberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I worked on a digitizing project for Universal music some years ago, doing
> several thousand tapes. I totally agree about Ampex 456 - the few we didn't
> bake sure smelled like they would need baking, but weren't shedding, just
> yet.
>
> We never encountered a Basf tape that needed baking, and the same for Agfa
> with one, big exception and that is PEM 469, until they changed the
> formulation sometime around 1990. All earlier 469's were baked. A few 468's
> were also a bit sticky and were baked and then played fine, but if that was
> SSS I don't know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tommy Sjöberg
> Folkmusikens hus
> Rättvik, Sweden
>
>
>
>
>> Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:06:06 -0000
>> From:    "Prentice, Will" <Will.Prentice@xxxxx>
>> Subject: SSS Agfa [WAS: Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?]
>>
>> Hi Goran
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Re. Agfa, we've had several examples of PE 49
>> (double play, 7") which have proven sticky. According to the numbers in
>> the green leader tape there were two manufactured bad batches at least,
>> both seemingly bought by us at the same time, circa mid-1988. The
>> numbers to beware of are 01041 and 15383. All other PE 49 batches thus
>> far have been fine.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Will
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goran Finnberg
>> Sent: 25 February 2009 12:38
>> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?
>>
>> Will Prentice:
>>
>>  > Responding to Richard's comment that "all tape
>>  > manufacturers seemed to have created batches of
>>  > tape which suffered from this [i.e., SSS]"
>>
>> I have never ever seen any BASF tape ever go sticky shed.
>>
>> BASF is one of the worlds biggest chemical companies.
>>
>> They have always claimed that they had all the knowldedge in house
>> together with making all the ingredients in house.
>>
>> So their position is that due to the above none of their tapes will
>> exhibit sticky shed as they knew how to avoid it.
>>
>> AGFA, it is the same except for some batches of Agfa 468 during half a
>> year or so.
>>
>> I have only seen one real of 468 go sticky despite having transferred
>> several hundred such reals over the years.
>>
>> In contrast it is almost a given that any reel of Ampex 456 will go
>> sticky for sure.
>>
>> And that is true over here since so far they all need baking.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Goran Finnberg
>> The Mastering Room AB
>> Goteborg
>> Sweden
>>
>> E-mail: mastering@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Learn from the mistakes of others, you can never live long enough to
>> make them all yourself.    -   John Luther
>>
>