[PADG:1283] Re: Richard Cox takes on Nicholson Baker--live!

[Gary Frost <gary-frost@xxxxxxxxx>]

Lorraine's comment that the debate needs context is really helpful. I have 
suspected that the debate should not be posed in a preservation context at 
all, but in some other context of access automation. In that context the 
"one time capture" premise would be considered vs. the less presumptive 
multiple time capture.

Gary

At 10:12 AM 4/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Although I haven't read the book yet, I have read Baker's New Yorker 
>article, several book reviews, and some of the responses that have been 
>posted on the web.  For an exposure of some of Baker's own faulty 
>arguments and misleading rhetorical devises, please see Robert Darton's 
>review in the New York Review of Books.
>
>In my humble opinion, I think that Cox is a good choice for debater, 
>because he attempts to understand Baker's arguments and popular appeal in 
>a context--the collectibles culture of which eBay, Martha Stewart and 
>Bombay instant collectibles, and the Antique Roadshow are also 
>manifestations--more appropriate for his allegations and assertions than 
>the field of librarianship.  I think the debate will be enlightning for all.
>
>
>At 07:56 AM 04/24/2001 -0400, Walter Cybulski wrote:
>>Ellen:
>>
>>A candid comment, well worth every e-penny!  Of those who have spoken 
>>thus far in response to Baker's book, whose arguments are less 
>>faulty?  Who should be debating Baker?
>>
>>Walter
>>
>> >>> abbeypub@xxxxxxxxx 04/23/01 11:07AM >>>
>>Lorraine - I read Cox's reply to Baker on FirstMonday, and so did Gary
>>Frost, who commented on Cox's debating skill in his own website.  He and I
>>agreed that Cox is not a good debater, because his arguments are faulty.
>>
>>So I don't think either party will bring much light to be shed on the
>>topic.  I would say they deserve each other.  But thanks for letting me
>>know.
>>
>>Ellen
>>
>>
>>
>> >At the Center for Research Libraries meeting on Friday, there was a
>> >thoughtful and witty presentation by Archivist Richard Cox responding to
>> >Nicholson Baker's allegations about newspapers and their
>> >preservation.   Cox mentioned that he will be debating Baker at Simmons on
>> >May 16.  The announcement for the event is at
>> >http://www.simmons.edu/gslis/alumni/alumnday01.html.  I don't know if this
>> >has been widely publicized, but I do hope that my east coast colleagues
>> >will be able to attend "The Great Paper Debate" and cheer for our guy.
>> >
>> >You may read Cox's response to Baker's New Yorker article on newspapers in
>> >First Monday http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_12/cox/.
>> >
>> >
>> >__________________________
>> >
>> >Lorraine Olley
>> >Head, Preservation Department
>> >Northwestern University Library
>> >1935 Sheridan Road
>> >Evanston, IL 60208
>> >USA
>> >847-491-4672 v
>> >847-491-8306 f
>> >l-olley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>__________________________
>
>Lorraine Olley
>Head, Preservation Department
>Northwestern University Library
>1935 Sheridan Road
>Evanston, IL 60208
>USA
>847-491-4672 v
>847-491-8306 f
>l-olley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Gary Frost, Conservator
University of Iowa Libraries
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