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Re: [ARSCLIST] NASA (and beyond, far beyond!)
Oh, you ain't so cranky... ;-)
But I spend a lot of my life reading, and a lot of that very 
intelligent science fiction. I live in the dream of humanity exploring 
planets and star systems far far away - I know, nothing any of us will 
see in a lifetime, but the future is totally open ended. I'd rather see 
money well spent on paving the road, so to speak, to the stars, even if 
it is thousands of years away. Better than spending money and lives 
murdering humans for the oil they stand on which will run out IN our 
lifetimes! I never bought the argument that space research money would 
be better spent on education and human welfare - because the space 
budget has always been less than one percent, and with warfare taking 
about 30% the argument is specious.
I agree, we should not take moneyo ut of automatic probes, but we ought 
to take half the war department budget and spend that on advancing 
humaity to the stars...
Okay, this is off topic, but if they can't even keep track of moon 
videos, what will they be doing  with that NASA budget? Building Buicks 
to go to the moon??? (the space shuttle is so primitive it is 
embarrassing - I mean, foam blocks? Give me a break, they need 
titanium, insulated with vacuum like thermos bottles! I knew THAT as a 
teenager.) I set my sights much, much higher. But then I am an idealist 
from the start... and humans must get over their petty territiorial 
squabbles and killings and start looking to the universe. The payoff 
will be much better - scientific developments as offshoots from space 
projects is a huge benefit, even if Radar was devwloped to kill 
people... Teflon was invented to make their lives easier, in the space 
age.
and imagine space telescopes traveling lightyears and sending pictures 
back from otherwise unkowable perspectives - Hubble is a baby step! And 
I love the Hubble images, with the Atsronomy Picture of the day my home 
page...
Ah well, even intelligent people think I'm a bit wierd. Rant mode off/
<L>
Lou Judson • Intuitive Audio
415-883-2689
On Aug 15, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
No, sometimes I probably just sound like a cranky old man!
Hey, if the president has his way with the national treasure, we will 
be blowing large clumps of money in the near future to go back for ... 
what??? Let's be honest here. The moon shot was an amazing 
technological feat, but its true aim was politics -- to get there 
before the USSR, and to get them to blow a large chunk of their more 
limited resources (and they took the bait, just like they did with the 
Reagan military build-up). Sure, we made some discoveries and took 
some great photos, and proved human enginuity is amazing, but do we 
really have the national will or treasure to repeat the same steps 
again, in these times? I'd argue, no. And I really can't see any 
reason to send people to Mars. Every probe sent there says the same 
thing -- there ain't a lot of there there as far as anything 
beneficial or economically useful. That's a lot of money to spend for 
a geology lesson. Meanwhile, NASA really has gotten better at unmanned 
probes and they are best equipped of all government agencies to get 
some better science on the atmosphere and climate change. That's where 
the national treasure should be spent. I say, pull out of the space 
station, retire the shuttles after one more big mission -- repairing 
Hubble again so it'll go another decade or two --  and then get out of 
the manned space flight business.