Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones

[Lou Judson <loujudson@xxxxxxx>]

I know a few dozen of those kind of bandfs- David Thom Band, and a 
young Colorado group stand out in my mind. Thye almost aways use a 
cardiod large diaphragm, though such as AT 4033 or 4040 and they love 
my pait of 4050s. Thom uses one mic for everything plus one for the 
fidlle so he doen't poke eyes out with the bow...

Bluegrass is one of my specialties...

<L>

Lou Judson • Intuitive Audio
415-883-2689

On Aug 29, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Tom Fine wrote:

> There's a great blue-grass band, forgot the name but they've been on 
> Austin City Limits at least twice and I think also on that West 
> Virginia public TV show, maybe called Mountain Jam or Mountain Stage. 
> They work around one mic, probably a dual-capsule condenser set at 
> figure 8. These guys are experts at moving close and out, varying 
> their dynamics for this beautiful natural balance and harmony, both 
> vocal harmony and balanced between instruments and vocals. I doubt 
> very many pros back in the day were as good at this technique as these 
> guys. I wish I could remember their name, I think it's some brothers 
> or a father and sons.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Sueiro Bal" 
> <mls2137@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones
>
>
> > Lou,
> >
> > True, as a blanket statement it is a bit useless. But  in a live 
> > situation,
> > I would almost always deal with a singer that is too loud than one 
> > that is
> > too soft, and I have encountered the latter far more frequently. Few 
> > singers
> > can overload an SM-58, although it does happen. But if you have a 
> > drum kit
> > and rock guitars behind a whispering singer... that's when the trouble
> > starts. I see that much more with younger perfromers, the ones that 
> > have
> > grown up overdubbing their vocals, or in a separate vocal booth.
> >
> > There was one young band that played what they called "old-timey" 
> > music and
> > tried the "old-timey" approach of having just one microphone on a 
> > [small]
> > stage, which I was looking forward to. It was a disaster: their 
> > singing
> > could not be heard above their instruments, and they said they could 
> > not
> > hear themselves. Microphone or not, their balance was *acoustically* 
> > way
> > off.
> >
> > Marcos
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Judson" <loujudson@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones
> >
> >
> > I do live sound for a lot of acoustic music, and find wide variation 
> > in
> > singing delivery. I don't think a generalization like "singers do not
> > project" is viable as a blanket statement - I know many too loud as
> > well as too soft, and an unfortunate few with no fear at all!
> >
> > But then I don't see much electric music or rock kind of thing at all
> > either... You may be right though.
> >
> > <L>
> >
> > Lou Judson • Intuitive Audio
> > 415-883-2689
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Marcos Sueiro Bal wrote:
> >
> > > I have started to think that is a big psychological factor as well,
> > > and a
> > > big reason for why singers do not project when singing live anymore.