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Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
Both the Iron Needle and Burg's transfer are of the 1979 Bell System LPs,
yes.
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> On Behalf Of Roger and Allison Kulp
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
>
> The 1979 US Bell System Lps ?
>
> --- Larry Friedman <disquod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Ironically enough, I recently went on a search for
> > the Stokowski Bell Labs
> > recordings, and the only thing I found was that Iron
> > Needle disk. I have
> > never bought anything by this label for obvious
> > reasons, but I had no choice
> > here, so I did. The transfer is actually not bad.
> > There is a certain bloom
> > to the sound that I liked. I couldn't help but
> > wonder where they had stolen
> > the recording from.
> >
> >
> >
> > Soon after I bought the Iron Needle disk (that has
> > about half of the
> > recordings), I found a "private" disk of all of the
> > Bell recordings pressed
> > by Theo van der Burg of the Netherlands. His site is
> > http://www.med.hro.nl/burtw/. I have nothing to do
> > with Her Burg, except
> > that I am a happy customer of his. His product is
> > extremely well done, very
> > clear and open, and he was kind enough to send the
> > set out to me even though
> > PayPal had bollixed up the payment. I imagine the
> > rest of his transfers are
> > equally as good.
> >
> >
> >
> > I heard the Ellington "accidental" stereo disks a
> > number of years ago. They
> > were pressed and released, but I have forgotten by
> > whom. The sound was good
> > and certainly less distracting than the Fantasia
> > sound, where each choir of
> > instruments keeps bouncing around from speaker to
> > speaker. As I remember,
> > the Ellingtons had a very nice spread. I will try
> > and find out on which
> > label they were transferred.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Larry Friedman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
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> >
> > > On Behalf Of joe@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:17 AM
> >
> > > To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The reference found on the web points to a CD on
> > the Iron Needle label,
> >
> > > and for me that is not a thrilling recommendation.
> > Has anyone heard this
> >
> > > CD and care to comment on the quality of the
> > transfer?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Joe Salerno
> >
> > > Industrial Video Services
> >
> > > PO Box 273405
> >
> > > Houston Texas 77277-3405
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
> >
> > > > I have the Beecham centenary box,referenced on
> > this
> >
> > > > board,which looks good thanks for the link.While
> > EMI
> >
> > > > was behind the curve,in putting out thier first
> >
> > > > Lps,and getting into stereo,they weren't the
> > only
> >
> > > > ones.Victor,put out both 33 "Lps",and were into
> >
> > > > stereo,in the 30s.The Lps,were the famous
> > "Program
> >
> > > > Transcriptions',there are a few pop ones,but
> > there is
> >
> > > > also the Stokowski "Unfinished",which i own,and
> > the
> >
> > > > Toscanini Wagner Preludes,which i am actively
> >
> > > > seeking,as well as a Beethoven #5,which i don't
> > know
> >
> > > > who did.(Like to get this too.)
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > As for stereo,I am aware of two systems.There
> > is a
> >
> > > > very cumbersome Victor system,that used
> > synchronized
> >
> > > > tandem turntables,with the left,and right
> > channels,on
> >
> > > > two different records.I am aware of recordings
> > of this
> >
> > > > type,by Duke Ellington,which I heard,when they
> > were
> >
> > > > issued on CD,several years ago.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > And then there was Bell
> > Telephone/Laboratories,with
> >
> > > > thier famous Stokowski recordings,of 1931,issued
> > on
> >
> > > > private Lps,by Ma Bell,in 1979. Quoting from the
> > liner
> >
> > > > notes "Another Bell Labs innovationfrom this era
> > was
> >
> > > > stereophonic recording and reproduction.As the
> > quality
> >
> > > > of sound systems improved,some kinds of
> > distortion
> >
> > > > became noticeable.A.C.Keller and I.S. Rafuse
> > concieved
> >
> > > > a way of reducing them by seperating the high
> > and low
> >
> > > > frequencies and recording them on parallel
> > tracks on
> >
> > > > the same record.Later they fond a way of
> > recording two
> >
> > > > complete sound tracks in one groove and using a
> > single
> >
> > > > pickup to reproduce both tracks simultaneously
> > with
> >
> > > > minimum interference.From this came the
> > recording of
> >
> > > > two full range bands from left and right
> > microphonesin
> >
> > > > the same groove-the stereo technique perfected
> > by
> >
> > > > Keller and Rafuse in 1938.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > But Stereophonic records needed needed
> > expensive
> >
> > > > pickups and two amplifiers and speakers,so it
> > was
> >
> > > > difficult to find a market during the depression
> > era
> >
> > > > of the 1930s.It wasn't until after World War II
> > that
> >
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