Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)

[Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>]

See the article I linked to Re:The CSO.Are you sure the Munch "Damnation",isn't one of those,that were released in stereo in the late 70s/early 80s,like the Munch "Pastorale",or the Cantelli Franck ?


                                   Roger

Steve Abrams <steveabrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Not quite.  The Munch Damnation of Faust in February 1954 was recorded in 
stereo but only issued in mono. Something happened to the stereo tapes. The 
Reiner recordings of  Heldenleben and Salome's dance were recorded on March 
6th.  Zarathustra came two days later on the 8th.  However - and you should 
be able to shed some light on this - some stereo recordings were made by 
Bert Whyte at the December 1952 sessions of the Chicago Symphony recording 
Ma Vlast under Kubelik.  'Tabor' recorded on December 6th has recently been 
issued on Music and Arts in a transfer by Obert-Thorne.  The very unpleasant 
overload distortion on the Mercury Living Presence mono set, very evident on 
the CD issue, is not evident in the stereo version.

Steve Abrams

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Fine" 
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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)


> I'd be interested to know what's on them and who released them. I do not 
> believe you'll find that they are in fact 2T stereo. They are likely 
> half-track (2-sided) mono. If they are stereo, it would be very 
> interesting to know who put them out as in 1952 only a few people were 
> experimenting with 2-channel stereo recording of music. No major labels 
> yet, although I believe RCA started making 2T masters in 1954 or even 
> 1953 -- I think Zarathustra with Reiner was the first 2T session.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Palmer" 
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> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:29 AM
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>>    I bought my first 2 track tapes for my reel recorder/player in the 
>> Base Exchange in Sidi-Slimane, Morocco in 1952.  I still have a couple of 
>> them in fact.   Jack
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Fine" 
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>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:40 AM
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>>> Ampex developed their own, was developed by Leon Wortman in NY and 
>>> detailed in a 1951 Radio & TV News article. Wortman's line made 
>>> full-track or half-track tapes. Commercial half-track tapes were 
>>> available as early as 1951 or 1952, but there was only a very small 
>>> consumer market for reel to reel machines at that point. > Because this 
>>> was a new format sold at a premium price, a lot of QC attention was paid 
>>> by the reputable companies in this era, so the net quality is very high. 
>>> Akin to what happened when stereo LPs came along.
>> .
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