Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)

[Don Cox <doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 09/04/07, Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:

> See the article I linked to Re:The CSO.Are you sure the Munch
> "Damnation",isn't one of those,that were released in stereo in the
> late 70s/early 80s,like the Munch "Pastorale",or the Cantelli Franck ?
> 
According to notes by John Pfeiffer in the booklet with the "Age of
Living Stereo" sampler CD, part of the "Damnation" was spliced into a
demo reel, which was later lost. 

A 5 minute excerpt is on that CD.

Maybe that and other lost tapes will turn up some day.

> 
>                                   Roger
> 
> Steve Abrams <steveabrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Not quite. The Munch
> Damnation of Faust in February 1954 was recorded in stereo but only
> issued in mono. Something happened to the stereo tapes. The Reiner
> recordings of Heldenleben and Salome's dance were recorded on March
> 6th. Zarathustra came two days later on the 8th. However - and you
> should be able to shed some light on this - some stereo recordings
> were made by Bert Whyte at the December 1952 sessions of the Chicago
> Symphony recording Ma Vlast under Kubelik. 'Tabor' recorded on
> December 6th has recently been issued on Music and Arts in a transfer
> by Obert-Thorne. The very unpleasant overload distortion on the
> Mercury Living Presence mono set, very evident on the CD issue, is not
> evident in the stereo version.
> 
> Steve Abrams
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST]
> commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)
> 
> 
>> I'd be interested to know what's on them and who released them. I do
>> not believe you'll find that they are in fact 2T stereo. They are
>> likely half-track (2-sided) mono. If they are stereo, it would be
>> very interesting to know who put them out as in 1952 only a few
>> people were experimenting with 2-channel stereo recording of music.
>> No major labels yet, although I believe RCA started making 2T masters
>> in 1954 or even 1953 -- I think Zarathustra with Reiner was the first
>> 2T session.
>> 
>> -- Tom Fine
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jack Palmer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops 
>> question)
>> 
>> 
>>   I bought my first 2 track tapes for my reel recorder/player in
>> the Base Exchange in Sidi-Slimane, Morocco in 1952. I still have a
>> couple of them in fact. Jack
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Fine" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops 
>> question)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ampex developed their own, was developed by Leon Wortman in NY and
>> detailed in a 1951 Radio & TV News article. Wortman's line made
>> full-track or half-track tapes. Commercial half-track tapes were
>> available as early as 1951 or 1952, but there was only a very small
>> consumer market for reel to reel machines at that point. > Because
>> this was a new format sold at a premium price, a lot of QC
>> attention was paid by the reputable companies in this era, so the
>> net quality is very high. Akin to what happened when stereo LPs
>> came along.
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