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Re: [ARSCLIST] Tom Fine and 78 rpm records



Hi Francesco:

I don't think it's appropriate to have this discussion in a public forum. I would call a personal attack in a public forum sort of flame-ish, but I'm over it so no harm done. Please feel free to discuss further off-list.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Francesco Martinelli" <fmartinelli@xxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:08 AM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Tom Fine and 78 rpm records



Dear Tom
you expressed several times already your dislike for 78 rpm records.
Doing it again and again everytime the subject comes up, on a list dedicated
to sound archiving, is tedious. I also find the expressions you are using
are also rather insulting for people who are interested in 78 rpm records,
sometimes dedicating their lifes to what is for you a "vastly inferior
listening experience" or just plainly enjoy listening to them (quorum ego).
We got your point, you dislike 78 rpm records, this will not stop others
collecting, listening and enjoying them, no need to harp on it every other
message. Other people will start listening all the crimes committed on
magnetic tape, or describe the horrors of mp3, and we will get one of those
format flame wars that just do not contribute anything useful to a list like
this.
Thank you for your consideration
Francesco Martinelli

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] King Oliver/Louis Armstrong Gennett recordings



: Right, this one:
: http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=85
:
: I assume the real CD doesn't have the digi-swishies that these online
excerpts have?
:
: The instruments are quite a bit clearer than the LP I have but I guess the
original media and
: recording method is just so vastly inferior that a decent listening
experience is not possible.
:
: -- Tom Fine
:
: ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Sam Brylawski" <goodlistening@xxxxxxxxx>
: To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:14 PM
: Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] King Oliver/Louis Armstrong Gennett recordings
:
:
: > As Dick Spottswood reminded us earlier this week, listen to Rob
: > Bamberger's show, Hot Jazz Saturday Night at wamu.org. It's archived
: > for three more days. His show this week is on the new Archeophone set,
: > inc. interviews with its producer/engineers. They did a remarkable
: > job, samples of which you'll hear.
: > Sam
: >
: > On 6/1/07, Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: >> Was anyone ever able to use digital tools and make those recordings
anything
: >> approaching decent sounding? All I have is the Book of the Month Club
: >> reissue of the the Milestone LP produced by Orrin Keepnews and
remastered
: >> for BOMC at Fantasy in 1974. The sound quality is so poor that I
consider it
: >> unlistenable. I understand the limitations of the original source
material
: >> but wonder if any digi-magic was later invented that improved the
listening
: >> experience at all?
: >>
: >> The awful-sounding Gennett records were made in 1923. Just 2 years
later,
: >> Okeh made some decent-sounding Armstrong Hot Fives records in Chicago.
I
: >> have those on a Columbia reissue LP "The Louis Armstrong Story Vol 1",
I
: >> seem to have a very late (70s) pressing of this record, which the notes
: >> indicate was issued at the dawn of the LP era, so back in the late 40's
the
: >> Columbia engineers must have done disk-to-disk transfers, I would guess
from
: >> Okeh metal parts.
: >>
: >> -- Tom Fine
: >>
: >
:




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